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duncanm 12-24-2009 12:59 PM

Take part in a debate around how young is too young and if it matters..
 
I posted this within another thread but feared it would get lost within the heat of the topic..

I was wondering if anyone would be interested in taking part in a live debate on the topic of young sailors attempting trans-atlantic and world non-stop and stopping cruises?

Ideal but not essential, you should have a relevant perspective:
-You are a young sailor
-You are the parent of a young sailor
-You are an instructor
-You have been on a round the world trip cruising/non-stop
-You have a background in child psychology

Reply if you're interested

lapworth 12-24-2009 10:51 PM

Not sure I understand if you don't have the abilty to sail then what does your age have to do with anything?

Boasun 12-24-2009 11:11 PM

One limiting factor is mental strength. And usually most kids under the range of 16 to 19 do not have the mental strength for such an arduous task of sailing around the world.
The reason I have an age range there is because everyone matures differently.

lapworth 12-25-2009 09:06 AM

My Nephew is 17 Grew up on his dads motor boat and has been sailing the past 2 years with me. My wife on the other hand is 35 and only goes out from June-August. She goes out to get a tan so we only sail with the head sail. If you where to put them out in the middle of no where by them selves I would bet on the kid.

71Irwin32 12-25-2009 09:05 PM

21 or an emancipated minor, that way their parents can't be charged with a crime....unless they've got some sort'a captain's lisence. Got'a be 16 to solo flght, or drive a car.

flatracker 12-26-2009 10:42 PM

Not the gummits decision
 
First off, I truly believe that 13 is waaaay too young to be attempting a solo round the world trip. I also believe that parents who would let a 13 yo undertake such a trip are not being very good parents. But even more than I believe these things, I do not believe it is the gummits job to interfere.

Jasper Windvane 12-27-2009 12:57 PM

When I was 17, if someone gave me a sailboat to sail around the world, I would
instead sail to the next port, load up with my friends, and plenty of beer, and it would be P A R T Y .. !!! Who the heck wants to sail around the world, at 17 I wanted to P A R T Y .. and maybe get very lucky. If the same fool gave me a sailboat at 18,19,20,21,22, .... I would still sail to the next port and P A R T Y !! Spring Break !! On a sailboat !!

PCP 12-27-2009 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boasun (Post 554202)
One limiting factor is mental strength. And usually most kids under the range of 16 to 19 do not have the mental strength for such an arduous task of sailing around the world.
The reason I have an age range there is because everyone matures differently.

I agree, but I would say that if you have de sailing ability, mental strength and maturity are the limiting factor.

Kids under 16 are still on the process of personality definition. Put them with such an arduous task, that includes being alone for so many time under difficult circumstances and it can have disastrous effects on his personality, for the rest of their lifes.<O:p</O:p

Jasper Windvane 12-27-2009 02:33 PM

lporcano's ....... dude, you really need to get out more.

bloodhunter 12-28-2009 07:54 AM

Can't participate in this poll because the alternatives don't relate to each other. If it had been sailing experience and even then ...
What I don't like is that this is a competition to see who can be the youngest to solo around the world. If the kids really want to sail around the world -- solo or in groups -- that's fine with me so long as they don't endanger others. Let them just sail off quietly and get it done or not. However, that's not what's happening.
I just wonder how much of this is the desire to make the sail and how much is the desire to set a record and become famous. Also how much is it the influence of the parents -- an before you say no way, think on those morons who sent their kid up in a home-made balloon so they could have a better shot at getting on a reality show.
And where does it stop -- 12, 10 , 8... I could see a totally automated boat with a really well-designed expert system being operated by an 8-year-old who is good at video games. With luck he or she could make it around the world.
As for government interference. Well the Coast Guard folk can keep a boat in port if they think it can't handle the weather. But even so it seems that only in the Laura Dekker case did the government interfere. But what do you expect them to do? This case has had wide publicity. If the government didn't act and something went wrong, they would be crucified. So they took the safe way out.
As for teenagers adapting more easily than adults, I'm not at all sure that's true. I don't feel like searching the web for facts and figures, but from raising teenagers I really wonder. We raised five children, three boys and two girls --all of whom are now adults , married with successful careers -- and as teenagers, none of them handled major changes at all well. It may be that young people don't have the base of life knowledge -- the been there, done that -- to fall back on when facing change. Or may be our kids were just an exception.


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