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I was trying to see if the OP would clarify his post... most sailboats fish via trolling, something you should know all about... if he's trying to fish from a sailboat by spinning, baitcasting or flyfishing, it really isn't a good platform for it, as most sailboats are rather cluttered platforms for that kind of activity and snagging sheets, sails, etc with a hook kind of sucks.

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I doubt that a flyrod and a beamier boat is helpful advice for the OP.

What works for me (I hestitate to say every time) while trolling is to use a small down rigger ahead of the spoon. This gets the spoon below the surface commotion and is killer on blues and Spanish mackeral here on the banks. While not as "sporting" as flyfishing perhaps, I eat fish often. Nothing however equals fishing around structure. Structure equals fish. The boat doesn't matter at all.
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I do a lot of fishing. Less maybe with a yacht, because it takes four times as long to get anywhere, though fishing your feet is an adage that can pay off. Room is a bit restricted but still fine for 2 people.
I have never found trailing a lure to yield much.
On the other hand I have caught a limit of nine in a couple of hours just motoring out for an hour when raising the sails was too much of a hassle. One can also stop a mile or so from one's destination and pick up a feed. I don't bother catching more than I can eat unless going home when I can give away the excess. Even at anchor in say 7m one can get dinner while having a sundowner.
Bait can be a problem depending on space and refrigeration. Two approaches are to use soft plastic baits and jig which is popular and also feasible in calm patches. I prefer fresh bait if possible. This can be caught on a simple hand line using a sabiki rig, (small hooks with bits of stuff on them).
I used to have the fishing spots pretty well sussed using a runabout. However then it was easier to go some distance and change spots a few times, and fish in the evening while getting home quickly.
With a yacht less so and if one is going to stop it seems more sense to me to make it where the fish are, particularly if one is sailing over them to a more distant fishing spot. So I have just been putting in a good quality fishfinder plotter combo with a swing arm to shift it into the companionway. The cheaper ones are not much use.
Hopefully this will work well. I still have a few friends who would be keen on a day or half a day of fishing who would be less available for longer sailing trips.
I guess what one catches depends on your area, and even the common names differ. What we generally catch snapper is a different fish from what americans call snapper. It is a bream most like the med silverhead bream rather than the US species. Sizes range up to around 70 cm and 1.5 lb - 25 lb with anything over say 8lb being a good fish but rare to catch very much bigger though in a fishing contest some 20lbs will turn up mostly by going to waters not accessible to most.
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Hi,

I am look for tips for fishing from a sailboat. I sail in the FL panhandle area, and for the most part, I have been bottom fishing with shrimp while at anchor. We have caught most pan-sized fish: gulf kingfish, cats, and small sharks. I have also trolled (3-4 knots) using a silver spoon. Been lucky less.

I search the forums, and was surprised that I did not find much sail-fishing info.

Does anyone have a tips or suggestions to better join sailing and fishing. My youngest kid loves fishing, and because of our better success on the hook, we find ourselves spending now actually sailing.


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Not familiar with your area. We fished San Francisco Bay
which can get very crowded, and outside. When trolling
suggest you use enough weight to keep the lure deep or
close to the boat so as not to catch another passing boat.
Same concept when bottom fishing, whether anchored
or drifting, try to keep the line from drifting out to the side
where other boats may snag it. I would imagine that your
local bait shops can give you some tips, after buying some
bait and beer.

Good luck, Dabnis
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I would like to thank all for their input. In particular, the Cuban Yo-Yos sounds like a must have. I could not find them sold locally, but the thanks to the link, I plan to get a few online.
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oh, and i was just in kahoots with my offshore p/b fishin pal... when hunting red snapper--cigar minnows and squid... kind of like a sandwich.

hmmm.... cigar minnow and squid sandwich for fishy, snapper sandwich for me...
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If you're planning on trolling with either a rod or a hand line, you will probably want to use a planer on the line to bring the lure down to a depth more likely to have fish.
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If you're planning on trolling with either a rod or a hand line, you will probably want to use a planer on the line to bring the lure down to a depth more likely to have fish.
Unless your fishing for dolphin which like to hit at the surface. I prefer tuna though which I found like it a little below the surface and further behind the boat.
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We use a trolling line with a diving spoon in deeper water and in shallower water a spinner. Flashy and green/yellow trailers works best... but we are no experts. The problem we have is that the big fish like big lures so rigging them up requires a hire test and steel leaders which are really bad for the smaller fish.

You can spend a gazillion dollars on this stuff!!! Penn makes pretty good stuff, but I really prefer Shimano over them. For a spinning rod (open), I think Daiwa is my preference.

So to do it right, yo uhave to have several different rods and a lot of different lures. But to save money, just get one troller (will end up being the most expensive too), then a cheaper spinning (open face). For the docks and kids, just get a cheapie from Walmart.

Now if you really want to catch fish all day long for fun, use rib meat. Catfish love that stuff and it is hard for them to pull it off the hook. But since saltwater catfish are nigh near unedible, it is just for fun. Snapper will hit almost anything and love the docks - but the bigger snapper like to be closer to wrecks or pilings or stuff further offshore.

SO now that it sounds like I know what I am talking about, here is the biggest fish I have caught this year:



That is a really tasty great barracuda (don't eat them... dangerous). SO I am no expert. In fact, my little boy told me last weekend that, "Catching a fish in a sailboat while trolling is very rare, right daddy?"

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Wow CD...that would take two grills in parallel to cook up..........

Really shouldnt eat Barracuda as you have a greater risk of Ciguatera poisoning. Is a toxin produced by dinoflagulates which are ingested when predatory reef fish eat other fish

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Wow CD...that would take two grills in parallel to cook up..........

Really shouldnt eat Barracuda as you have a greater risk of Ciguatera poisoning. Is a toxin produced by dinoflagulates which are ingested when predatory reef fish eat other fish

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Yep. Don't eat Barracuda or large grouper or Jew fish (protected) or parrot fish, which was why I put it is dangerous. Actaully, one of the safest is tuna and Mahi-mahi which do not feed so much off of reefs. But Barracuda are fun to catch and reel in! We caught this dude in the tender and he nearly pulled us into the reefs!

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