Cruising to Australia? Customs NAZIS here.

[capecodphyllis]

Originally Posted by tdw

the suggestion that whites are discriminated against in Australia is utter crap...If you have a sponsor...

Really? I guess that explains why young Moslems are running wild in the streets. They all sponsor each other!

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...e.asp?ID=20535
http://www.vdare.com/francis/gang_rape.htm
http://www.vdare.com/fulford/racial_rape.htm
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...006784,00.html

Do you think these girls were discriminated against? Gosh no. Australia wouldn't do that!

[yotphix]

Originally Posted by tdw

Does this sound all that draconian ?[/list]

No. It does sounds pretty clear. Too bad for the guy who didn't know, and shame on the folks who gave him wrong info if they did but these rules shouldn't stop anyone from visiting and getting bitten or stung, whichever their preference!

[tdw]

Originally Posted by capecodphyllis

Really? I guess that explains why young Moslems are running wild in the streets. They all sponsor each other!

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...e.asp?ID=20535
http://www.vdare.com/francis/gang_rape.htm
http://www.vdare.com/fulford/racial_rape.htm
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...006784,00.html

Do you think these girls were discriminated against? Gosh no. Australia wouldn't do that!

What happened to those young girls was horrendous. 22 years jail was in my opinion far too short a prison term. I'd have locked the pricks away until hell freezes over but it does not show systematic discrimination against people with white skin by Australia, the Australian Government or Australians as a whole. Quite frankly I'm sick and tired of people like you who use what are in effect isolated incidences to promote their own racist agenda. Where the crimes of the ******* KKK proof that all white Americans were a bunch of brain dead morons who got off on wearing their mummies bed clothes ? I don't think so.
So, those girls were savagely discriminated against by a bunch of mongrel dogs with not a trace of moral fibre amongst them but how , pray tell, did AUSTRALIA whose legal system saw the rapists put away for over 20 years do the discriminating ?

[capecodphyllis]

Originally Posted by tdw

Quite frankly I'm sick and tired of people like you who use what are in effect isolated incidences to promote their own racist agenda.

FACT 1: Australian immigration laws DO NOT apply to non-whites.

FACT 2: Non whites can waltz right into Australia by claiming asylum. They need not be facing death or persecution. (In America they're placed on the dole, issued a driver's license, and shown to the voting booth.)

FACT 3: Non-whites who arrive in Australia by boat are welcomed like the prodigal son - given permanent residency. While white (yuck, spew) tourists who arrive by boat are descended upon by customs officials.

FACT 4: You are an incredibly sensitive, terminally politically correct, bleeding heart liberal. As with all liberals, you resort to name-calling at the drop of a hat. Any and all opposition to your liberal agenda is "racism". Notice how quickly you played that card. Maybe you should hold it in reserve - take it out later, like the Queen in a chess game. That would be a better tactic, comrade.

Power to the pimples!

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Monday, August 14, 2006
Australia PM withdraws bill restricting asylum seekers arriving by boat
Jaime Jansen at 10:16 AM ET

Australian Prime Minister John Howard on Monday abandoned the proposed Migration Amendment (Designated Unauthorised Arrivals) Bill that would have required asylum seekers arriving by boat to be processed at offshore camps after it became apparent that the Senate would not approve the bill. Senator Judith Troeth, a member of the governing Liberal Party, voiced opposition to the bill and told Howard that she would vote against it. Howard's Liberal Party maintains only a one vote majority in the Senate, and Howard chose to withdraw the bill rather than face defeat.

Last week, the House of Representatives approved the bill by a measure of 78-62, but faced strong opposition from four MPs in the governing party. Critics of the bill have condemned Howard for catering to Indonesia to resolve a diplomatic dispute between the two countries that arose after Australia gave visas to more than 40 Indonesian asylum seekers from Indonesia's Papua province earlier this year. Shortly after Howard withdrew the bill, eight new asylum seekers arrived on Australian soil. The Indonesian government also warned that a flood of refugees would likely head towards Australia soon.

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchas...draws-bill.php

[tdw]

Fact 1. Wrong. Australian immigration laws apply (however unfairly) to all.
A boat person arriving without papers is treated exactly the same be they whatever skin colour or country of origin. Funnily enough however we don't seem to seeing too many white boat people.

Fact 2. Get your facts straight. Check out how many asylum seekers are in detention camps in this country. White ? I don't think so. The vast majority are either asian or middle eastern.

Fact 3. And you complain about name calling. Jaysus man, get a grip. Ever heard of the children overboard affair ? Not the way prodigal chldren are treated traditionally.

Fact 4. Incredibly sensitive eh ? Aren't you sweet. Somewhat predictable is the "bleedin heart liberal" line but then you probably say that to anyone who is politically to the left of Ghengis Khan. I must admit however that I'm unlikely to be buying any T-Shirts from the sites you seem to enjoy.

Pimples ? Carbuncles on the backside of humanity is more like it. Lance 'em and be done with it.

As for Wee Johnny's attempt to get his offshore internment camps up and running, how many white skinned people do you reckon would be held in one of those ? Hmmm ? Howard withdrew the bill cos he was gunna get rolled. It was a **** of a bill and it's passing will not be lamented. Probability is that it will be back on the agenda again when Howard thinks he can get it through the Senate. Even, as you pointed out, members of his own party did not support the thing. It's called democracy and he didn't have the numbers but to to suggest that bill was somehow discriminatory against whites is bollocks. It was aimed fairly and squarely at non whites and it did not have the support of the community at large.

Eight new arrivals eh ? Now that's what I call a deluge. Holy **** we are going to be overrun by the buggers.

Reality is that Australia is far from perfect. There is without doubt too much bureacratic interference in our lives but I don't see that impinging on the freedoms of whites any more than it does on other ethnic groups.

[Zanshin]

Originally Posted by capecodphyllis

...was categorized as "undesirable"...

I too was thinking of relocating to Australia a while back. But you didn't quite tell the whole story about the Australian rules. There is a whole checklist of attributes for which you get "points" if you wish to go as a "skilled immigrant". You get more points for being younger or having a skill set that is in short supply in Oz. There are other categories where the age limit doesn't apply.

I have to laugh at the comparison, as the USA has some of the toughest immigration requirements (for legal immigrants, that is) in the world. The process can be pretty demeaning as well! I remember going into my interview for an H1-B visa after months of waiting and bringing along a bound folder with supporting documentation that was at least 2 inches thick! And the Green Card application was even worse.

[cockeyedbob]

Capecodphyllis ...

Why do want to leave here and what, in your opinion, is the advantage of emigrating from the United States to Australia? Not interested in arguing, just understanding ...

[capecodphyllis]

Originally Posted by Zanshin

I too was thinking of relocating to Australia a while back. But you didn't quite tell the whole story about the Australian rules. There is a whole checklist of attributes...

I never got that far. I visited their immigration website and saw that my age and job skill did not meet with their requirements. It's too early to get serious about it. However, as I approach retirement, I will eventually relocate to a place with great diving and sailing. Australia is one possibility.

Trust me. I am not bitter or angry as the person above seems to think. My comments were entirely tongue-in-cheek. I believe the laws are perfectly reasonable. That being said, I can't help but notice the massive flood of unemployable non-white immigrants into Australia. Many of whom were previously wandering around Indonesia in Osama Bin Laden t-shirts.

I KNEW that if I dare mention the flood of non-white "asylum seekers" into Australia, and the massive crime wave and financial burden that has resulted, a knee-jerk bleeding heart liberal would go completely berserk. I was right.

[capecodphyllis]

Originally Posted by cockeyedbob

Capecodphyllis ...

Why do want to leave here and what, in your opinion, is the advantage of emigrating from the United States to Australia? Not interested in arguing, just understanding ...

Well, I'm looking to retire early. So my criteria is based strictly on where I can have the most fun. I've been to Australia a half a dozen times, and had a blast, despite being worked over by the customs Nazis. Australia is great for sailing and scuba diving. And other outdoor activities. The people are generally fantastic. Also, I dream to have a ranch with about a dozen Border Collies - in a place with good year-round weather. That's hard to do in the states. Although I am quite well off financially, not even I can afford to buy a big ranch in Southern California, or any other place where the weather is great - just too expensive. By comparison, I could live like a god in Brazil or Argentina, and pretty well in Australia or New Zealand.

[tdw]

Originally Posted by capecodphyllis

I KNEW that if I dare mention the flood of non-white "asylum seekers" into Australia, and the massive crime wave and financial burden that has resulted, a knee-jerk bleeding heart liberal would go completely berserk. I was right.

In other words everything you said was a complete load of crap and having been caught out you now pretend it was all said in jest. You know , I do believe there are quite a few small population centres in Australia that have noted a shortage of local dimwits. You could be in there with a chance. I don't think that being a right wing reactionary old fart would disqualify you from useful employment as a village idiot.


Shock horror headlines "flood of non white asylum seekers", "unemployable", "massive crime wave and financial burden" ? You very funny fella. Wouldn't recognise the truth if it slapped you in the face, but a very funny fella. None of that is actually true but then you are only joshing so we know not to take you seriously. Trust you ? Yeah right. I'd rather put my faith in Lord Downer of Bagdad.

Note - Australia has a rigid policy of accepting no more than 12,000 refugess in any one year. I believe these figues below are from 2004. I can't confirm that but they are definitely post 2002.

• 71 countries accept refugees and asylum seekers in some form or other
• Of the 71 Australia is ranked 32nd ;
• On a per capita basis Australia is ranked 38th, slightly behind Kazakhstan, Guinea, Djibouti and Syria;
• Of the 29 developed countries that accept refugees and asylum seekers Australia is ranked 14th. Per capita, the US takes twice as many refugees as Australia.

Oh yes and 11 out of 13,000 applicants were deported for bad character and only one for suspected links to a terrorist organisation.

Now if you will excuse me I need a cup of tea a bex and a good lie down. Foaming at the mouth , not to mention the blood loss from my poor old liberal cardio vascular system have quite done me in.