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SAILINGFOOL - Thanks for the comments. I wish I was sure enough of the actual parts required to pre-order. The spreader boot is still on the shroud or was last week. I'm hoping the parts are still there in the boot and/or the end of the spreader.
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That the boot would be on the sreader deson't make sense. The boot is placed around/over the spreader tip and secured to the end of the spreader tube by running a few layers of rigging tape around its end. It covers the spreader tip, which should been secured in the end of the sreader tube by a through bolt, with the upper shround passingthrough the tip. Makes no sense that the boot could be attached to the spreader and the shround not in the tip covered by the boot...I supose the cast alu tip part could crack, and the shroud rip through the plastic boot.

The part referenced at RigRite is the correct part.
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Sorry I wasn't clear, the boot is still on the shroud that is off of the spreader. There could be part of the retainer still attached to the shroud and captured in the boot.
Does your CS36T have the ISOMAT spars? I was sure hoping to hear from someone with the same rigging as my 1982 CS36T.
I'll take your recommendation and order the spreader kits from RigRite.
Thanks for the input.

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Sorry I wasn't clear, the boot is still on the shroud that is off of the spreader. There could be part of the retainer still attached to the shroud and captured in the boot.
Does your CS36T have the ISOMAT spars? I was sure hoping to hear from someone with the same rigging as my 1982 CS36T.
I'll take your recommendation and order the spreader kits from RigRite.
Thanks for the input.

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If the boot is stilll on the shroud, then the tip or parts of it are still inside the boot. Was the mast recently rigged perhaps someone failed to put the thru bolt in the tip and it was held in place only by the tape around the boot. The other possibility is that the tip fractured and worked out of the spreader tube, leaving the bolt in place - this would seem unlikely as I don't think they see much stress. But if I was going up the mast I'd have two replacements in my chair, if one actually broke, replace the other also. Confirm RigRite will let you return them if not needed.

You definetely want to take this discussion to CSOA...
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Got up the mast this week end (3 times actually) to survey the problem.
The shroud was not in correct position in the retainer on end of the spreader. Only the plastic cap was holding the shroud AT the end of the spreader. I wonder what other surprises the PO has left for me.
The retainer was not like anything pictured on the RigRite internet site. There is a solid aluminum piece welded on end of the spreader with a groove on the end for the shroud. The retainer is just a 3/16" screw with a piece of SS tubing around it to capture the shroud. The screw enters horizintally from forward. I had to remove the spreader and bring down to dock to remove the screw as it was cooroded badly.
Now I need help with retensioning the shrouds and stays.
Does anyone have the specifications for hte 1982 CS36T with ISOMAT spars?

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Tune the rigging by sailing the boat, that's all that matters unless you are racing a one-design want want the ability to re-tune at the dock.
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Sorry, I'm not confident I have the experience to know what I am looking for.
I am most interested in relative tension of the mid and upper shrouds for utilizing the hydraulic back stay adjuster. Should one be looser than the other?

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The upper has greater tension than the intermediate. The CS36T manual has a detail section on tuning the rig have you looked at it?

The funtion of these shrouds is to keep the mast from falling off to leeward, they operate unknowing of the backstay. Tune them so when beating in 15-20 knots, the masttrack is straightand the leeward rigging shows a little slack but doesn't flop around.
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Thanks for the information. The manual I have is copies of pieces, but nothing this detailed. Do you know where this may be posted?
I have not seen anything on these sites that mentioned having the manual to download. Does anyone know where this might be?

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