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Re: Universal to Kubota Parts list?

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Thank you for the reply. I tried matching the Kubota Fuel Injector OEM #70000-65208 from the website you referenced with my existing injector and they were very different injectors. Not sure what part number to use for the V850 engine.
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Re: Universal to Kubota Parts list?

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There used to be a document titled History of the Universal Motor Company in numerous places on the web... It seems to have been deleted from most locations (I wonder why).

Here are the salient points:

First Universal diesel: 5416, it was a 45 cu in, 16 hp, 2 cylinder, based on the Kubota Z-751 block and built from 1976 to 1982. Evolved into the Model M20, which was produced in 1982 and 1983.

5411 was a 31 cu in, 11 hp 2 cylinder raw water cooled diesel, based on the Kubota Z-500 block. Built from 1977 to 1982. Replaced by the Model M15, which was produced in 1982 and 1983.

The Model 5424, was a 68 cu in, 24 hp, 3 cylinder, based on the Kubota D-1101 block. Built from 1977 to 1983. Replaced by the Model M-30, which was produced from 1983 to 1987. The Model M-30 was the same size, but later M-30 engines were based on the Kubota D-1102 block. It was built from 1983 to 1987.

Universal 5421, a 52 cu in, 21 hp, 3 cylinder, based on Kubota D-850 block. Built from 1978 to 1981. Replaced by the Model M25, which was produced from 1981 to 1986. Replaced by the Model M-25XP, a 57 cu in, 23 hp, 3 cylinder, based on the Kubota D-950 block, built from 1986 to 1999.

5432, a 91 cu in, 32 hp, 4 cylinder, based on the Kubota V-1501 block, was built from 1978 to 1982. Also called the Atomic diesel. Replaced by the Model M40, which was produced from 1982 to 1998. The Model M-40 was also a 4 cylinder model, and the same size at 91 cu in and 32 hp but it was based on the Kubota V-1502 block.

Model 5444, a 115 cu in, 44 hp, 4 cylinder, based on the Kubota V-1902 block, was built from 1980 to 1982. Replaced by the Model M50, which was built from 1982 to 1997.

M-12, a 24.4 cu in, 10 hp, 2 cylinder based on the Kubota Z-400 block, was built from 1983 to 1988.

M-18, a 34.8 cu in, 14 hp @ 3,200 rpm, 2 cylinder, based on the Kubota Z-600 block, was built from 1983 to 1988.

Model M2-12, a 26 cu in, 11 hp, 2 cylinder, based on the Kubota Z-430 block, was built from 1987 to 1997.

M-35, a 75.5 cu in, 30 hp, 4 cylinder, based on the Kubota V-1200 block, was built from 1987 to 1997.

M-35A, a 4 cylinder engine producing 22.3 kW / 30 hp at 3,200 rpm - details unknown

M3-20, a 38.9 cu in, 18 hp, 3 cylinder, based on the Kubota D-640 block, was built from 1988 to 1997.

M3-20A, a 3 cylinder engine producing 13.4 kW / 18 hp at 3,600 rpm - details unknown

M4-30, also called the Atomic Four diesel, a 52 cu in, 25 hp, 4 cylinder, based on the Kubota Y-850 block, was built from 1988 to 1997. Offered as a diesel replacement for the original Atomic Four gasoline engine. It was similar to its namesake, since it was a 4 cylinder model weighing slightly less (122 kg / 270 lb as opposed to the original’s 150 kg / 330 lb with reduction drive - the M4-30 was only offered with a reduction drive) and generating slightly less power (18.6 kW / 25 hp at 3,600 rpm as opposed to the original’s 22 kW / 30 hp at 3,500 rpm) with a smaller displacement (850 cc / 52 cu in as opposed to the original’s 1,065 cc / 65 cu in).
I believe (90% sure) that all of these engines use the same injectors... My earlier post referenced an injector that cross references to Kubota Part Numbers; 15221-53000, 15271-53002, 19202-53020, 19202-53021, 70000-65208

However, it's YOUR engine. You should do the research and get to know this stuff.
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i have an m4-30 universal engine made by kubota for westerbeke. The engine model # located under the injector pump is v850-176248 and the serial #08510. I need 4 injectors. The current injectors are nissan denso 3340 7j and according to westerbeke part #302735. Can you help?
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Re: Universal to Kubota Parts list?

Well, obviously I don't make it over to sailnet very often or I would have replied sooner! I get my Kubota parts from Issaquah Kubota out off I-90
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I found the Kubota equivalent for my 5411 which is the Z-500 [check the dipstick, it should have the Kubota engine # imprinted on it] then a call to my local Kubota dealer resulted in a fax from him of the entire engine chapter of his parts book. I have it in my binder next to my 5411 manual as a cross reference


Would you be able to share the info you have on the 5411, It would be great information to have,

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Re: Universal to Kubota Parts list?

I have a bad faxed copy that I'll try to scan to a pdf file. It would be nice if there was a place here to share and store this kind of info for everyone!
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Re: Universal to Kubota Parts list?

I emailed Kumar Bros and their reply regarding the z-500 (Atomic 5411) was:

"2 pistons, 2 rings, 2 pins and all the metal is $259 with free shipping. We have the parts in stock and can ship right away."

They don't stock the gaskets though.

http://www.kumarbrosusa.com/kubota/kubota-parts.html


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Re: Universal to Kubota Parts list?

Stupid sailnet living in the stone age, limits attachments to teeny tiny little bmps and jpgs and NO pdfs.....whah!

If anyone wants a copy of the Kubota catalog for the Z500 (aka Universal 5411) showing parts and numbers to save big $$$ at your tractor dealer drop me a line and I'll email you a copy. It's pretty small, about 500k.
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There's a definite need for someone to not only stock easily-available parts, but also to get some of the in-demand but unavailable marinised parts made. I am thinking specifically of the Universal exhaust manifolds.
My manifold is toast and I'll be d@mned if I'm going to pay $500 for a new one! This is ridiculous! After inquiring here on sailnet and being warned my engine would turn into a nuclear reactor without the exhaust manifold water jacket I wound up bypassing the manifold jacket entirely (corrosion blocks the internal passages backing everything up resulting in engine overheating) and so far it's never glowed red or set the 'glass deck above it on fire.....but sure, I'd like to replace it and have it work as it should, but $500? smh
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Re: Universal to Kubota Parts list?

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Stupid sailnet living in the stone age, limits attachments to teeny tiny little bmps and jpgs and NO pdfs.....whah!

If anyone wants a copy of the Kubota catalog for the Z500 (aka Universal 5411) showing parts and numbers to save big $$$ at your tractor dealer drop me a line and I'll email you a copy. It's pretty small, about 500k.
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