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post #11 of 17 Old 04-30-2014
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Gee, for a 33 year old boat, 2,440 hours doesn't seem very high...maybe even a little light? 2440/33=75 hours per year, huh? Check to make sure the hourmeter is actually working. Realistically at that age the kind of use it's received is probably way more important than the number of hours...how does it look? Original or sixth owner? Decent engine maintenance logs or none? I have a 5444 with over 3,000 hours, and just finished redoing the cylinder head, replacing the "water flange" that the thermostat sits in, overhauling the heat exchanger, and replacing the gauges in my instrument panel.

I think the Kubota's are good little engines, and the Universal marinization bits seem okay too. That said, you have to be ready to do a little detective work figuring out the Universal/Kubota parts cross reference - search Google for "Kubota parts" and you'll get a bunch of hits (Kumar Brothers sells a lot of aftermarket stuff). Shops & mechanics used to working on Yanmars, Perkins and Volvos may not be enthusiastic to work on it, but they are pretty simple engines. How much of a DIY'er are you? I replaced three gauges in my panel with nice new Teleflex gauges that are nicer than the originals for $160, and it took maybe a day all told, including changing a bit of wiring.

One thing I learned is that compression and leakdown tests can tell you a lot. OTOH, my understanding is that the real value of oil analysis is tracking changes, so a one time test isn't all that informative. SOME of the marinization parts on these engines are getting pretty scarce (like exhaust manifolds), and even finding these parts used can be tough, but I think most things could be MacGyvered. Good luck!
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Re: Universal 5424 Diesel

On the subject of gauges, it is de rigueur to bypass the ammeter in the instrument panel, as the Universal wiring is unable to safely carry the alternator charging current. This makes the ammeter rather useless.

I replaced mine with a voltmeter - much more useful
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Sir, me kindly requesting spreadsheet for parts conversion for my Universal 5424 24 hp diesel.
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I hope that is not a lot of hours...I'm a week away from buying a '80 Cal 31 with 5424 that was installed as a rebuilt engine in 1999. 4700 hours on the meter and I'm hoping that included the original motor.
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kubota engines are top. Issues with modern EPA requirements will block getting parts from the tractor dealerships. Can't even get an injector anymore from them. Fresh news from my Kubota Tractor dealer and parts supplier. They said for every tractor replacement engine they have to prove to the EPA and Kubota the old engine is destroyed. Parts are just as hard to prove use.

That said, there is an easy out. I just had this discussion today to replace my M5424. The M5424 is either the 922 or 905 block. (25 hp)

$25,000 fully installed by a top flight marine shop in Michigan, brand new Universal motor and transmission and all new goodies. They told me Universal won't allow a DoItYourself install.

$12,000 do it yourself replacement with the Beta Engine (Kubota Marinized by Beta), very nice unit.

Buy a full replacement long block from Kubota Industrial engines. $3700, approx.

order your replacement parts from the Industrial Engines dealers as well.

So, i'm going strip the old motor of the manifolds, heat exchangers, pumps, etc. then marinize an off the shelf brand new Kubota. And put in a thrust bearing and CV joint system, mounting the motor and the trans level, cutting down the stringers.
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EPA requirements will block getting parts from the tractor dealerships. Can't even get an injector anymore from them. Fresh news from my Kubota Tractor dealer and parts supplier. They said for every tractor replacement engine they have to prove to the EPA and Kubota the old engine is destroyed. Parts are just as hard to prove use.
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