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farymann diesel generator

Hello Experts,

I am the owner of a 84 Allmand 35 sailboat that I bought about 6 months ago. I have an interesting problem with my genset. When I turn the genset key, will not crank.

Past history:

Generator worked when I bought the boat and up to 2 weeks ago, still did. It always took a long crank to start it. According to hour meter, 53 hours on generator (have NO idea if accurate!)

Boat is docked at my home (which I don't have access to as it is rented) in Port Charlotte, Florida. Running the 110 volt off an outside outlet until I can get shore power put in. Popped a breaker in the house and the resident were away. Powered up the genset and all was good. Ran Genset for about 1 to two hours a day, over multiple days. No problem. Turned off Genset using key on power panel.

Left for three days and I had left something on that drained the batteries to the point that the Yanmar engine, nor the Faryman genset would start.

Repowered to 110 and fully charged the batteries. Yanmar starts fine. Faryman does not crank at all.

I am not sure if I flipped a switch somewhere, have a bad starter, did something "really really bad" or ...

Any ideas? Anyone in the area with any expertise?

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Re: farymann diesel generator

First off check to see if you have 12 volt power to the genset starter solenoid if not correct and retry start if you have power to it have starter inspected does solenoid make any noise at all with key turn
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Re: farymann diesel generator

Thanks.

Solenoid does not seem to make any noise with key (but I haven't had a second set of ears either).

I will check for 12 V at starter Solenoid when I get back to the boat.

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Re: farymann diesel generator

It may really depend on how your charging system is hooked up. It may be that the starting battery only gets charged by the generator itself? Is there a circuit to charge the battery like a battery switch or an echo charger?
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Re: farymann diesel generator

ferrymann diesels make great mooring anchors....



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Re: farymann diesel generator

Is that your Farymann?

What are the pro's and con's of that engine? I will say, mine was very loud and I don't know if there was a way to keep it quieter, although since it won't start right now, mine is very quiet.



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Re: farymann diesel generator

That was my farymann, I took it out.
it worked for a few days after getting the yacht, then we fixed it once, and it broke for good.
They are junk, and parts are expensive and hard to come by.
Much better off with a modern engine, that is very common.
I got a good chuckle of someone wanting $3000 for a farymann on ebay.
they are truely worthless junk.
Entec was the only good source of parts, but to rebuild it was going to be about $1000 before we were done. Its not worth $1000
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Re: farymann diesel generator

UP thanks for your advice.

Was the Farymann the generator engine or your primary drive engine?

Mine is strictly generator, and I am hoping to get it back running as I don't have a new generator in my budget. Maybe I will need to start saving for one!

Thanks for replying also, because I have started following your blog.

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That was my farymann, I took it out.
it worked for a few days after getting the yacht, then we fixed it once, and it broke for good.
They are junk, and parts are expensive and hard to come by.
Much better off with a modern engine, that is very common.
I got a good chuckle of someone wanting $3000 for a farymann on ebay.
they are truely worthless junk.
Entec was the only good source of parts, but to rebuild it was going to be about $1000 before we were done. Its not worth $1000
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Re: farymann diesel generator

Hi tom, if you look close at the photo you can see the generator attachment on the engine.
I pity anyone with one of these as a main engine, thou i know they do exist.
Our main engine is a 63HP westerbeke. not a bad engine.
Our farymann was also from the early 80's in fact it had a brigs and straton sticker on it.
It was raw water cooled... yuck. I understand that entec now fresh water cools them, but anything using this engine is off my shopping list for good.

I have also read mixed reviews on the 2 cyl kabota. I am looking at a brand that slips my mind right now. It runs a 1cyl kabota at 2800RPM, and is rated for 4KW using a 6KW generator head. I have seen them online new for about $4000. I keep my eyes open constantly for a great deal on a used unit. The problem with that is some people drastically overpaid for the generator when new (some paid $12,000 for 6KW) so they think $6,000 is a bargain. Honestly I wish they made a nice quiet reliable cheep 3KW unit. With the solar we will install i don't see us using the generator much, except on nasty hot nights, and when the batteries need topped off when sailing in cloudy conditions.

I wish you luck with your farymann, but don't spend too much on the repair.
thanks for watching the blog!
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