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Betas claim quieter. Any validilty to that?
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Probably, due to the heavy flywheel that they add to the engines, it should be a bit quieter as the vibration will be less.
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I replaced my 4108 with a Beta 50. One big consideration was that I could use the existing 2" exhaust system (Yanmar wants 3"). The 4108 only has about 35 usable hp, and Beta recommended the 37hp as a replacement, but I felt the 4108 was a bit underpowered for my 45' boat.

Two years and 600 hrs on the engine later, I am very happy with the new Beta--its smoother, quieter, and DOES NOT LEAK OIL! When I had a problem with the oil change pump, they fedexed a replacement down to Trinidad in 2 days at no cost.
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We will be re-powering within a year. Sounds a bit far off but not for us. We are just getting the data together.
We would like to go through the summer and fall with our current engine.
We are liking the 43 hp 4cyl Beta.
What engine will we go with.
What transmission – we would like to keep our velvet drive.
Will we remove the old engine
How to dispose of it
Will we do the install with dock mates
What options do we want.
What support comes with it

At present the Perkins 108 runs great. Stars right up and goes good. Our reason for re-powering is we are going cruising in 2 ˝ years. Going with a 30 yr old motor that has been in the bilge is not a smart plan for me. How can I explain breaking down 300 mi off somewhere. My wife will be saying “Why did we not replace the motor when we had the chance.” And she is right yet again!

I have heard the motor will run forever, it is all the attached equipment that will fail. Any way we have had to fix a broken injector clamp, broke just sitting there. A dock mate and I fixed it. My wife and I spent a couple hours getting the injector line on without it leaking. The Perkins 4-108 is a tough motor to bleed also, not something for rough seas. I also had to JB weld an adjustment on the injector pump that was leaking. I was told that was the fix. It seems to be working.

If we were going to stay local I would just keep it because it is a good running motor with about 1000 hrs on it.

poopdeckpappy, your welcome to the motor when we remove it if you wish. We can finalize it later. I was wondering how to dispose of it.

They put in new dock at our marina so we may need to have it lifted out at a boat yard. The old slips were cement and more stable than the new wooden ones. A couple Perkins have been removed at our slips (cement) and one was re-powered with a larger Perkins and one with a Beta.

This Saturday we were at Downwind Marine and saw a sign for the Marine Man who sells the Beta here in San Diego. My wife and I walked over as did another customer but the door was locked. His truck was parked on the street with a banner saying he was open. Oh well another time.

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Hey Chip, I am in process of repowering, with a Beta 35HP. My boat is a 38" Jeanneau, 15,500 lbs, old motor was a 30 HP renault. My dealer told me the 28HP was more than enough, unless I was in an area where tide and current were a factor.Always being slow and underpowered I chose the 35HP. It is also a 4 cyl, the cut off is 28HP is 3 cyl. My old eng and trans weighed in around 1000 LBS, new engine and trans 375LBs. I was told not to overpower as the newer diesels need to run in the top 2/3, of rpm band,to get hot enough. Red
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Hey Chip, I am in process of repowering, with a Beta 35HP. My boat is a 38" Jeanneau, 15,500 lbs, old motor was a 30 HP renault. My dealer told me the 28HP was more than enough, unless I was in an area where tide and current were a factor.Always being slow and underpowered I chose the 35HP. It is also a 4 cyl, the cut off is 28HP is 3 cyl. My old eng and trans weighed in around 1000 LBS, new engine and trans 375LBs. I was told not to overpower as the newer diesels need to run in the top 2/3, of rpm band,to get hot enough. Red
Redhead,

I think you used good reasoning there. Our boat has a 27 hp Yanmar (11000 lbs) and I wouldn't go with any less.

But I just wanted to mention that Beta recently introduced a somewhat larger 3 cylinder engine, rated to 30 hp: Beta 30

Still, they seem to have a gap in the large 3 cylinder range, where Yanmar has offerings. Four-cylinders would be nice too, but in that size range it's nice to have the better efficiency of the 3 cylinders.
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We used the halyard to get the old engine out and on the deck, then a local boat hoist to lift it into a pickup truck. Anything big enough to launch a J24 is overkill for an engine/tranny.
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I bought and installed a 28hrs, 3 cylinder Beta-Marine in San Diego. Phillip at Marine Man, the dealer was very helpfull with advice. Especially since this was the first time I had attempted something like this. I was able to complete the installation, remounting and all but I did get help aligning the shaft since alignment is so critical. After installation the engine started right away with no surprises or problems and now has @ 60 hours of use. I did this myself for the experience and it was worthwhile. I could install or replace another much quicker. However, there is some drudgery involved and I would use Phillip, the dealer to install another just to avoid the work. The engine works great. The oil change pump is awesome and even the manual fuel priming pump shows great engineering. This engine pushes a 20'000lb displacement sailboat at hull speed with no problen and @ 2100rpm, the fuel burn is about 1/2 gallon/hour.
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Rebuilt zero hour Universal M40 for sale

Hi all, I have a freshly rebuilt zero hour Universal M40 for sale on Shelter Island in San Diego, has a 6 month warranty too. If you would like more info or to arrange to take a look at it please feel free to drop me a line..

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re-power with the Beta 38

We have done the re-power with the Beta 38 hp and all the details are on our blog. We love it so far.

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