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American made diesel?

I need to repower my Cal 39 sailboat, replacing a Perkins 4-108 with another 45-50 horsepower diesel engine. I thought about Yanmar, because of the good reputation they have, but it would be ideal to support American industry. Does anyone know a reliable American-built marine diesel engine?
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...Does anyone know a reliable American-built marine diesel engine?
John Deere. That's about the best engine out there, anywhere.

But their smallest is probably too big for your application.

JD uses Yanmars in their smaller tractors. That's a pretty good endorsement.
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Have the Perkins rebuilt at an American shop. You can save or create two million jobs
Seriously, I admire your values.
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Reshoring Initiative

FWIW, a group of manufacturing leaders who've been sickened by all the media reports of American factories closing in favor of moving production offshore are fighting back...with facts and figures.

At Re-Shoring Manufacturing Initiative ReShore they are making the case that, when you add up all of the costs of getting parts for your whatever, including, yes, diesel engine, it's often less expensive to build it in America.

They're bringing this word to other U.S. factory operators and government types and....it seems to be taking root.
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Costar,

You might do a Google search on US made Diesels. There are Cummins
Caterpillar, Detroit Diesel and maybe more? Probably none small
enough for your boat?

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I find it unlikely that a Perkins cannot be rebuilt to like-new condition (with US labor) for far less than the cost of repowering. However, if you are pre-disposed to repowering, I would think a Westerbeak would be the next best thing. In 1937, John H. Westerbeke Sr. founded the Westerbeke Corporation as a company dedicated to the development of diesel engines and generators for a variety of uses. By 1938, Westerbeke was already pioneering use of the Detroit Diesel 6-71 for marine applications. Westerbeak and Westerbeak/Universal are excellant engines, nearly the equal of the Perkins (IMHO).

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check into the Briggs & Stratton Vanguard Diesel Engine they make 3 cyl water cooled from 23 to 34 horse turbo american and may be able to marinize one
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The 6LP Yanmar engines are built outside Atlanta AND most all small John Deere tractors are Yanmar. Yanmar builds their small marine engines in near Amsterdam.

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I find it unlikely that a Perkins cannot be rebuilt to like-new condition (with US labor) for far less than the cost of repowering. However, if you are pre-disposed to repowering, I would think a Westerbeak would be the next best thing. In 1937, John H. Westerbeke Sr. founded the Westerbeke Corporation as a company dedicated to the development of diesel engines and generators for a variety of uses. By 1938, Westerbeke was already pioneering use of the Detroit Diesel 6-71 for marine applications. Westerbeak and Westerbeak/Universal are excellant engines, nearly the equal of the Perkins (IMHO).

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The Westerbeke 4-107 and 4-108 engines are actually Perkins engines - painted red! Unless your 4-108 threw a rod through the block or your crankshaft snapped, I agree - I'd have it rebuilt! The 4-108 was used in lots of shore-based equipment, thus complete overhaul kits (including pistons and liners) are relatively cheap. Just stay away from Foley (fair warning)!
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I repowered my 4108 with a Beta 50--marinized kubota engine. Its not US made, but it doesn't require a larger exhaust system like Yanmar, and it doesn't leak oil like a rebuilt Perkins.
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