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Yanmar control panel upgrade

My Yanmar 44hp JHE came with the dummy panel - type "b", tach and alarms, no other gauges.
I'm not wanting to go cruising with just dummy alarms.

Has anyone upgraded their JH type from a B to a C or D panel?
Does it require new sender units at the oil and temp inputs?

I'm also looking at the Maretron EMS100 as a possible solution as that also will connect to my NMEA 2000 network, but still have the same issues, even if I replace the harness I'm not sure it was intended to work with the seemingly 'on / off' type senders.
Needless to say vendor feedback is mostly silence..

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Re: Yanmar control panel upgrade

If all you have now are idiot lights then the 'senders' would be really just 'switches'.. unlikely they would drive an analog gauge or indicator.

Hard to believe that Yanmar doesn't sell an upgrade for something like this.. esp on the larger engines.
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Re: Yanmar control panel upgrade

Faster, no one would buy it. The replace panel - just the frigging panel - is 1400 bucks from them, and that's the type B panel.

Overpriced and under-documented...
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Faster, no one would buy it. The replace panel - just the frigging panel - is 1400 bucks from them, and that's the type B panel.

Overpriced and under-documented...
OUCH!!... now that you mention it, IIRC just the alarm buzzer is over $300.. makes no sense. Just wonder about the availability of aftermarket marine grade gauges and senders.. similar to what you can put on a car.
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OUCH!!... now that you mention it, IIRC just the alarm buzzer is over $300.. makes no sense. Just wonder about the availability of aftermarket marine grade gauges and senders.. similar to what you can put on a car.
Thus the reason I started this thread - I'd like to hear if someone has done it and if so what it took.

I did the google thing, scanned the other boater and such forums, de nada, it's like I had a original thought or something.
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Re: Yanmar control panel upgrade

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Thus the reason I started this thread - I'd like to hear if someone has done it and if so what it took. I did the google thing, scanned the other boater and such forums, de nada, it's like I had a original thought or something.
An "original thought" ....... now that's scary stuff I added a second set of gauges for my Yanmar out in the cockpit but the similarities end there. VDO is really the only thing I have to offer. I added a second Tach, Oil Pressure, and Temperature gauges with warning buzzers also. I had to jump through some hoops with the way Nauticat had them set up with resistance, 12v vs 24v, etc..... but any way VDO should be able to get you what you need.
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I found a replacement yanmar panel that had both gagues and the lights that was sold by mac boring that worked great. I was able to find it on Ebay. I did have to add extra sending units and a new wiring harness. Mack boring was great with advice.
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Re: Yanmar control panel upgrade

I had the same information as badsanta

When we got struck by lightning our yanmar panel was FUSED in the back by the strike.,no harm to the engine.

We were able to get the type B replacement at Bayshore as well as the harness, but only idiot lights, Tach, and not even audible alarm for our 3GM30, I contacted Mac Boringand was able to get the alarm piece and put it in the panel, but the other gauges were just to costly for what I do, The panel was $600 and harness was $!&%. Mac Boring gave me great advice over the phone.

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Re: Yanmar control panel upgrade

Sounds like what I need are:
a) a "t" fitting plumbed into both the temp and oil senders - (anyone have a idea for where to find one?)

b) refit the existing sender (which is only a switch) for both to one side of the T, leaving the wiring intact.

c) attach the new sensor type sender on the other side of the T

d) make my own harness by running wires from the new sender to both ground and the S side of the gauge (if I get analog) or the proper input to the EMS 100 for digital /NMEA 2000.

And most importantly - if I do it my self it is a LOT less expensive.
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Re: Yanmar control panel upgrade

Chuck,

Just thinking randomly here, so take it for what it's worth...

I've got no experience with Yanmars, but I reckon that when you boil it all down engines are pretty much the same.

You could probably set yourself up with a decent panel by cherry picking the exact component you want.

If you've got the appropriate sending wires already in your wiring harness, then I think that you probably shouldn't need to make a new one. The lights and buzzer sending units are just on/off switches; the electrical gauge sending units are more like rheostats. Either way, you've just passing electricity though the wires.

As long as you pair the gauges and senders, you should be fine.

I don't think you need to plumb in any tees unless you want to have both the gauges and the buzzers. You may be able to find secondary ports in the engine for redundant senders -- I know that my 4.108 has two ports for oil pressure senders.
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