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Changing Oil -- Universal 5424

This season, I winterized the engine on my S2 11.0 myself for the first time. The Universal manual says the engine holds 5.6 quarts of oil. In using the pump (foot siphon pump) extractor attached to the dipstick, slightly more than three quarts came out. I know the marina did not use the drain plug/oil pan because it is too difficult to get to. I ran the engine for about 20 minutes prior to changing the oil -- putting slightly more than the 3 quarts back in.

Why couldn't I extract all of the oil? What should I have done differently?
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Re: Changing Oil -- Universal 5424

I changed the oil on my 5424 last month, and it definitely took about 5.6 quarts. However, on my engine, someone has attached a pipe to the sump drain plug, with a brass fitting on the end. I don't know if this pipe was original equipment, or an accessory.

Anyway, what I do is warm up the oil and then insert the plastic pipe for my electric oil change pump, right up the pipe attached to the sump plug. This works great. Still, my little electric pump takes about 10 minutes to drain all the oil.

It seems the problem is that your pipe is not going all the way to the bottom of the sump (obviously!)
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Re: Changing Oil -- Universal 5424

It would appear that what I have is some variation on this :

Permanent Oil Drain Hose Kit from Wholesale Marine

Not saying this is the exact one that fits the 5424, but mine looks like this.

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Re: Changing Oil -- Universal 5424

Some of it was in the filter, not enough to account for the difference. The intake hose on your dipstick pump is probably not located at the bottom of the oil pan. West Marine sells an effective oil change pump.
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FWIW...one of the best oil change pumps is by Moeller...and I just happen to have one for sale. I don't need it anymore as my new engine, beta 38, has a remote oil change pump installed on the engine.

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...ctor-Pump.html

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Re: Changing Oil -- Universal 5424

This sounds fairly normal for extracting oil from a dipstick hole or oil fill.
I'm sure your engine is tilted down towards the stern where the shaft exits the boat. This creates a low point or reservoir where the oil collects. When you extract the oil from a spot above the low point you will only get slightly more than half the oil. If you extract the oil from the sump drain plug you will get 99% of the oil.
If you can't use the sump drain plug then multiple oil changes should be considered to get most of the old oil out.
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Re: Changing Oil -- Universal 5424

Thanks to each of you. Yes, my enine is slanted. I will chane the oil again in the Spring, and get the kit to attach to my drainage plug. Otherwise, I was happy with the West Marine manual pump, so I won't order a different one. Thanks for the quick responses.
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FWIW...one of the best oil change pumps is by Moeller...and I just happen to have one for sale. I don't need it anymore as my new engine, beta 38, has a remote oil change pump installed on the engine.

Moeller Product Reviews and Ratings - Winterizing - Moeller 6.5L Fluid Extractor Pump from Jamestown Distributors

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They REALLY work well. Even if I had a Beta that on-engine pump would come off and I'd use the Moeller. Having used the Beta pumps I think T37Chef is crazy to get rid of the Moeller.


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Re: Changing Oil -- Universal 5424

Well now that you say that MS I may have to wait at least until I try the one on the engine first!

Funny you mention the age of the engine, that is insane, looks better than new!

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