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But, seriously, running one of these freakin' things while UNDER SAIL ???

If I have to share the anchorage with that, I'd just as soon he run the generator while he's under sail so maybe I don't have to endure his generator whilst sharing the anchorage, yes?
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No indication as to the size of the charger. I can just barely run 2 40 amp chargers at full load. The honda is NOT 2000 watts, it is about 1400 if you get a good one.
Yup, that information could be useful... :-)

Assuming a single 50 amp charger, the Honda 2000 should certainly be up to the task. There's a thread now on this subject over on Cruising Anarchy, and Evans Starzinger finds his EU1000 to be adequate for use with a Sterling charger, but I don't know how he does it... :-)

I have a Honda 1000 aboard for emergency use, but I'm really starting to wonder why I bother. I have NEVER had to use it aboard the boat, in fact the only use it has ever seen was at my home in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, when my neighborhood was without power for 20 days. If I am gonna bother with carrying one of these things, I really should have gone with the 2000. But that additional size on a boat as small as mine, it makes all the difference, as I just happen to have a perfect spot the 1000 fits very neatly into...

In testing, I've tried to get the Honda to run my older Heart Interface Freedom 1000 inverter/charger, and it really struggles. The initial surge will shut down the generator immediately. Even after dialing down the 'Power Share' setting to a very modest percentage, it barely handles it (I'm guessing my older style Heart Interface is a pretty inefficient unit, by today's standards) The only way I could get it to work, was to run it for a bit using the 12V cords to the battery, in an attempt to get them 'up to speed', so to speak... But, having to use that thing as a routine means of charging, I think I'd probably quit sailing, instead...

but, as long as I have the damn thing, if anyone has any magic bullet solutions, I'm all ears... :-) If I didn't need it this summer, however, I seriously doubt I ever will, and I think the smartest thing for me to do is to put the thing on eBay...

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Yeah, running that thing to charge via DC @ 8 amps, that's efficient, alright... :-)



Well, we don't know what sort of boat we have here, or the type of sailing/cruising being done, so... But I have to charge my batteries just like anyone else, just seems to me there are better options...

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Also puts out 25amps at 120 volts will run a 50 amp output battery charger still Iwould rather use solar for battery charging
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Also puts out 25amps at 120 volts will run a 50 amp output battery charger still Iwould rather use solar for battery charging

??? You talkin' about the Honda EU2000i ???

It is rated at 2000 watts (16.7 amps @ 120VAC) and it will run a 75 amp battery charger just fine.

No argument about the preference for solar power....if you've got the real estate for the panels and a good MPPT controller, that's surely the way to go. No messy stuff, no additional cost, no noise, no maintenance and at least a 20-year service life. What's not to like about that?

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Re: Portable Generator

Here's the win/win, IMO. Instead of spending $1100+ for the honda genny, spend $400 on 120 watts of solar panels, and $600 on a Champion generator.
Amazon.com: Champion Power Equipment 73536i 2,000 Watt 4-Stroke Gas Powered Portable Inverter Generator (CARB Compliant): Home Improvement Amazon.com: Champion Power Equipment 73536i 2,000 Watt 4-Stroke Gas Powered Portable Inverter Generator (CARB Compliant): Home Improvement



Your solar will keep your batteries chharged up silently and handle all of your regular onboard needs- computers, lighting, etc. Your generator is used infrequently, to run tools, etc, when needed. Champion generators are the Samsung TV or the Hyundai automobile of the generator world- damn near as good as the honda benchmark with a better ROI on your money. ... money that you have put into solar panels so you don't have to run the generator as often, which will increase longevity, thus increasing ROI...
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??? You talkin' about the Honda EU2000i ???

It is rated at 2000 watts (16.7 amps @ 120VAC) and it will run a 75 amp battery charger just fine.

No argument about the preference for solar power....if you've got the real estate for the panels and a good MPPT controller, that's surely the way to go. No messy stuff, no additional cost, no noise, no maintenance and at least a 20-year service life. What's not to like about that?

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Actually bil I was referring to the 2500 watt unit from harbor freight Inverter Generator - 4.7HP, 2500W Inverter Generator rob
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Actually bil I was referring to the 2500 watt unit from harbor freight Inverter Generator - 4.7HP, 2500W Inverter Generator rob
Actually it is slightly less than 21 amps @ 120 volts.
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Re: Portable Generator

Ach, here we go yet again.

The 1000 generators will charge a house bank ONLY if there's a properly sized shorepower charger installed. This will depend on how big your house bank is and what it is: i.e., AGM or FLA. If you have a 10A shorepower charger, almost nothing will help, except being plugged in at a dock!

If you have a BIG house bank and a MEASLY charger, no generator will help.

The 2000 will be big enough to run your water heater, the 1000 won't. Why? 'Cuz the 1500 watt heater element is too big for the 1000 to handle.

Almost ALL Harbor Freight electrical stuff is TRASH.

Go from there, 'cuz that's the summary from the past 20years of experience.

Oh, yeah, there's the whole "companion" vs "regular" Honda discussion.

Look at the Honda website and find out the simple answer: the Companion model has the 30A output built in for a simple connection to your shorepower inlet.
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Honda EU2000i ($999.99 with free shipping)
New solar panel

We love the combination. Just did 36 days down the coast of Maine and back. And I never worried about the batteries. On occasion (three wet storm days in a row) we even hit the breaker for the Hot Water heater for HOT showers.

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Re: Portable Generator

Where you usually sail has a huge impact on the practicality of solar power to charge batteries. In the Pacific Northwest, solar is useful for at most 3 months of the year --- while the sailing season is 12 months. Hence the practicality of a generator and a 3-Stage Smart charger.
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