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For those who plan on voyaging away from the US be aware that Trojan agents almost anywhere other than the US rape the buyers.

Here's an example: I have read on this board that folks pay US$85 per battery for T105's (and they whine that it's soooo expensive). In New Zealand, they cost about NZ$374 which in today's exchange rate is about US$290. And that ladies and gents, is EACH!!

So when you've done your Pacific crossing and your T105's are tired and you arrive in NZ, stand by to be comprehensively reamed for Trojan replacements.

I use Century Yeasu equivalent (not much less expensive but a little) - mine are now nearly 4 years old and still perfect so I agree with other sentiments on the board - Trojan comes with an international horse.
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i think the Trojan held up better to neglect. go with a off name though and do your monthly checks, and i think you will end up almost same life, but quite a bit more life outta ur wallet.

Olsen34- excuse my ignorance..you dont have an isolater for ur house/engine batts? is this common on big banks?
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In the early spring I actually had to replace 2, T-105's that were very old. I opted for the Sam's club golf cart batteries. After finding a problem with a negative cable connector things have never been better!
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"Isolating" parts of this thread

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i think the Trojan held up better to neglect. go with a off name though and do your monthly checks, and i think you will end up almost same life, but quite a bit more life outta ur wallet.

Olsen34- excuse my ignorance..you dont have an isolater for ur house/engine batts? is this common on big banks?
This thread has been about the cost/benefit ratio of various brands of GC batteries, but........
"Isolaters" could be the subject for a different thread... and probably has been (and will be into the future).
I still use the 1-2-all stock switch to keep the banks separated. Our house bank is a pair of T-145's and the separate emergency/starting battery is a single 12 volt spiral cell AGM. They are charged together while on shore power. The charger vendor OK'd that, given that the charge curves are similar for flooded and AGM.
Others here may do this differently; their solutions are just as valid as mine.


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For those who plan on voyaging away from the US be aware that Trojan agents almost anywhere other than the US rape the buyers.
If you're going to get screwed while abroad, a trojans are a good safety precaution in any event ,

....almost forgot...this is a family-oriented site....back to batteries...

....as most people realize shipping batteries from a factory in the US to far away islands is expensive. Customs duties and VAT will also add to the cost of "imports". I saw a 30% price differential on a battery between two stores in the same store chain but on different islands in the Caribbean, with the lowest price some 25% above what I'd paid for the same battery in the US. I eventually got a replacement Trojan battery from a dealer in the USVI for just a bit more than the US price. The difference was shipping.

If you're headed off cruising to small islands far away and you're batteries are likely to pack it in while you're away, it may make sense to buy new batteries before you leave.

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As for shipping batteries, also need to realize that they are considered hazardous materials. All the regulations and fees that go along with that would be added in to the cost. I work in logistics management, laptops are considered hazardous due to the batteries....
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As for shipping batteries, also need to realize that they are considered hazardous materials. All the regulations and fees that go along with that would be added in to the cost. I work in logistics management, laptops are considered hazardous due to the batteries....
I believe most wet-cell lead acids get shipped without the acid and thus are not hazardous until they are filled and charged at the point of sale.
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is 7yrs normal?
that's short..sorry..but my 8D starting battery I bought in 2005 is still in use..
sure it didn't start out starting small diesel sail boat engines..think 8.2L school bus use.
for the passed 6 yrs..when it wasn't starting, it run a 3KW inverter to run 120V power tools from all day long(engine off)..long story short the bus died..but I moved the battery to full time use running the inverter. its kept charge by solar and AC power..

My dad run Trojan golf cart batteries for more than 10yrs in a golf cart..If I recall it was closer to 20yrs..

so something is going on...
maybe the rocking motion of the boat..its not the pounding..
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I think 20 years is a stretch for any but traction batteries, but 10 years is a possibility. It depends more on actual cycles than time. As they get older the capacity will drop.
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I think 20 years is a stretch for any but traction batteries, but 10 years is a possibility. It depends more on actual cycles than time. As they get older the capacity will drop.
Aren't golf cart batteries considered traction batteries?
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