Broadband Radar: Chartplotter Compatibility - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance > Electronics
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-05-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Bremerton, Washington
Posts: 184
Thanks: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 2
Rusty123 is on a distinguished road
Broadband Radar: Chartplotter Compatibility

A Raymarine C70 Classic chartplotter and radar was on my 28 foot sailboat when I bought it last year. In terms of electronics, this is pretty old stuff, and I'm attracted to the new toys (have my eye on the new Garmin 741xs).

I also like what I read about broadband radar (4G), particularly for my usage pattern, but at the moment, it doesn't look like anyone but Navico is making them. I imagine that the other manufacturers are working on broadband technology, which brings me to my question:

If I were to purchase a new chartplotter (the Garmin 741xs, for example), and then Garmin came out with a broadband radar in a year or two, would it be likely that the chartplotter would be compatible? Or would an entirely new chartplotter likely be required?

I realize this is fairly speculative, but to some extent would be determined by how dependent the radar is upon the chartplotter to function (in other words, does the chartplotter run the radar, or does the radar basically do it's own thing independently, and just display the readout on the chartplotter?).
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 07-06-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 670
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
LinekinBayCD is on a distinguished road
Re: Broadband Radar: Chartplotter Compatibility

Garmin already has a "Broadband" radar. It's basically plug and play with compatible units. The chartplotters control the functions of the radar. In the old days when radar was not interfaces with the chartplotters they did their own thing.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 07-06-2013
Maine Sail's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maine Coast
Posts: 5,264
Thanks: 9
Thanked 111 Times in 81 Posts
Rep Power: 15
Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice
Re: Broadband Radar: Chartplotter Compatibility

Quote:
Originally Posted by LinekinBayCD View Post
Garmin already has a "Broadband" radar. It's basically plug and play with compatible units. The chartplotters control the functions of the radar. In the old days when radar was not interfaces with the chartplotters they did their own thing.

Garmin has HD radar which is not the same as the Navico "broadband"....

As far as Garmin they are the best bet in marine electronics industry for not making stuff like domes & plotters obsolete when new stuff comes out... The 741XS is a very sweet unit and their HD dome is also excellent...
__________________
______
-Maine Sail / CS-36T


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




© Images In Posts Property of Compass Marine Inc.


Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 07-06-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Bremerton, Washington
Posts: 184
Thanks: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 2
Rusty123 is on a distinguished road
Re: Broadband Radar: Chartplotter Compatibility

Quote:
Originally Posted by LinekinBayCD View Post
Garmin already has a "Broadband" radar. It's basically plug and play with compatible units. The chartplotters control the functions of the radar. In the old days when radar was not interfaces with the chartplotters they did their own thing.
I was not aware that Garmin had a broadband (FMCW) radar. What model number are you referring to?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 07-06-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Bremerton, Washington
Posts: 184
Thanks: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 2
Rusty123 is on a distinguished road
Re: Broadband Radar: Chartplotter Compatibility

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maine Sail View Post
As far as Garmin they are the best bet in marine electronics industry for not making stuff like domes & plotters obsolete when new stuff comes out... The 741XS is a very sweet unit and their HD dome is also excellent...
Good feedback, Maine, thank you. Do you think the circuitry in a plotter designed for traditional radar will even work with broadband radar? I'm worried that the technology is inherently incompatible, despite the best efforts of the manufacturer.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 07-06-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 670
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
LinekinBayCD is on a distinguished road
Re: Broadband Radar: Chartplotter Compatibility

I thought they referred to the same technology. Who make a broadband radar?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 07-06-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Bremerton, Washington
Posts: 184
Thanks: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 2
Rusty123 is on a distinguished road
Re: Broadband Radar: Chartplotter Compatibility

Quote:
Originally Posted by LinekinBayCD View Post
I thought they referred to the same technology. Who make a broadband radar?
Currently, only Navico (Simrad/Lowrance/B&G) makes broadband radar (at least for small boats). Totally different technology. Simrad has a good YouTube video that describes the difference.
__________________
1981 Spirit 28 "Bonnie Lass"
Bremerton, Washington
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 07-08-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 670
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
LinekinBayCD is on a distinguished road
Re: Broadband Radar: Chartplotter Compatibility

This seems like article explaining the difference.

David Burch Navigation Blog: High Definition (HD) and Broadband Radar by Larry Brandt
chef2sail likes this.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 07-10-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Bremerton, Washington
Posts: 184
Thanks: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 2
Rusty123 is on a distinguished road
Re: Broadband Radar: Chartplotter Compatibility

I notice that the radar connection for the modern Garmin chartplotters is basically an ethernet connection, implying that the communication between the two is a digital data stream, which bodes well for future-proofness (as opposed to the analog connection of my current radar/chartplotter).
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 07-11-2013
Stu Jackson's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 774
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 13
Stu Jackson is on a distinguished road
Re: Broadband Radar: Chartplotter Compatibility

Panbo should have writeups and discussions, too.
__________________
Stu Jackson, C34, 1986, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
broadband 3G radar berwick1 Gear & Maintenance 3 04-15-2012 07:40 AM
Radar and MFD, Broadband Vs Raymarine deandavis1 Gear & Maintenance 5 10-08-2011 09:51 PM
Navico/Simrad Broadband Radar WadeC Electronics 4 10-22-2010 02:03 PM
Broadband Radar -- worth the premium? ereiss Electrical Systems 9 04-25-2010 04:10 PM
Simrad Broadband Radar in PNW Rustyf Gear & Maintenance 14 03-19-2010 10:41 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:23 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012