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Raymarine ST1000 vs. ST2000 tiller pilot

My boat, a '69 Columbia 28, is right on the cusp of displacement rating (6600lbs and I am at 6500lbs) between the Raymarine ST1000 and ST2000 tiller pilots. My question is, if I am going offshore and will be doing a fair amount of single-handed sailing would it be worth it to spend the extra $ to go with the ST2000? I will have alternate means of steering so will not rely on the tiller pilot 24/7, but I guess the question is if one is really that much more robustly built than the other. Anyone have experience with this? I'm going to the Seattle Boat Show in a couple of weeks and will ask a rep, but they never tend to give straight answers.
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Re: Raymarine ST1000 vs. ST2000 tiller pilot

The 2000 has a heftier drive than the 1000 and will handle higher continuous tiller effort. I would suggest the 2000 as the better unit for your boat.
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Re: Raymarine ST1000 vs. ST2000 tiller pilot

Thank you for your reply! That was my thinking as well. And really the difference is $50-$60 or so. A mere drop when it comes to equipping a boat.
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Re: Raymarine ST1000 vs. ST2000 tiller pilot

Yessir. We have a Hunter 22 that we keep on Lake Superior and it has a ST1000, so I am familiar with the capabilities of those. If it even gets close to being on the "edge" I would go with the bigger 2000 so you don't strip the gear out of the smaller one. They are a pretty good tiller pilot. After you get the sensitivity adjusted so it doesn't over-react you will be happy with it and it will last a very long time. Definitely a nice crew member to have onboard if you are single handing your boat.
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Re: Raymarine ST1000 vs. ST2000 tiller pilot

From folks I know of with boats the size of yours and mine, the 2000 for semi protected area's works well. OFF SHORE.......better step up to the next sized larger YET! I'm looking at getting a Simrad TP32 which is stronger than the 2000 you are looking at, and the rep told me the 32 may work off shore, but better to go one size larger yet if truly going off shore. I was told the same thing about raymarine. Puget sound where I am, not big to 30 knot winds, higher........a tiller pilot is toasted!

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Re: Raymarine ST1000 vs. ST2000 tiller pilot

I think for offshore cruising the windvane is a better option for tiller boats. The harder it blows and the heavier the seas the better they work without drawing a single amp-hour of battery power. It takes about 10-12 kts for a windvane to work properly. So use the electric tiller pilot for backup or motoring when there is no wind or very light air. Use the windvane as primary for most of your offshore sailing.

Used to be that all offshore cruisers had windvanes. They have fallen out of favor with today's electric stuff and people's affection for it. But that doesn't mean the old windvane don't work.
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From folks I know of with boats the size of yours and mine, the 2000 for semi protected area's works well. OFF SHORE.......better step up to the next sized larger YET! I'm looking at getting a Simrad TP32 which is stronger than the 2000 you are looking at, and the rep told me the 32 may work off shore, but better to go one size larger yet if truly going off shore. I was told the same thing about raymarine. Puget sound where I am, not big to 30 knot winds, higher........a tiller pilot is toasted!

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As much as I like the idea of something even more robust than the ST2000, Raymarine doesn't offer it, and I am going with a Raymarine network setup. I would like to do a windvane as part of the self-steering system, but I have a lot of stuff to do to the boat and that carries a pretty hefty price tag. So I will probably set up a sheet to tiller system part of the time, tiller pilot part of the time, and maybe even (eeek!) hand steer for some of it.
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Re: Raymarine ST1000 vs. ST2000 tiller pilot

The ST2000 will turn the tiller or wheel from lock to lock faster than the ST1000 also.
Don't forget to consider a remote control for your autopilot if you're single handing.
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Re: Raymarine ST1000 vs. ST2000 tiller pilot

Raymarine Smartpilot - Drive Unit Selection

You will want to go to something like this, that attaches direct to the shaft of the tiller. MUCH stronger than an actual tiller pilot. This will also run with ALL the raymarine electronics.

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Raymarine Smartpilot - Drive Unit Selection

You will want to go to something like this, that attaches direct to the shaft of the tiller. MUCH stronger than an actual tiller pilot. This will also run with ALL the raymarine electronics.
In my opinion that would be overkill for a Columbia 28. The ST2000 will be just fine and pretty much play with the tiller as far as straining or effort from the unit. You're steering a boat with a balanced rudder here, not a skeg mounted or full keel rudder. The tiller effort is not that high on a Columbia 28 (which is a really nice boat, BTW!).
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