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I am thinking about adding a Pactor Modem to my recently installed icom 802 SSB.

Are there advantages to the newer modems or will an older version purchased on eBay suffice?

I recently heard at a boat show that the Pactor 4 could not be used in the USA but cannot find anything more about this. Any insight?

Any advice welcomed

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Thanks for the link. Although I'm not sure what it all means. I figured this is FCC filing holdups.

Does anyone know about RoW. We are foreign flagged with a BVI ships radio licence?

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I am thinking about adding a Pactor Modem to my recently installed icom 802 SSB.

Are there advantages to the newer modems or will an older version purchased on eBay suffice?

I recently heard at a boat show that the Pactor 4 could not be used in the USA but cannot find anything more about this. Any insight?
Hello Mark.

Pactor 4 is perfectly legal on the marine bands worldwide. All the Sailmail stations support Pactor 4.

Pactor 4 is not legal in the US on the ham bands. It is legal pretty much everywhere else in the world. The FCC is considering changes. We'll see.

Many Winlink (ham) stations have updated to Pactor 4 modems, including some in the US who use Pactor 4 on Mars and other government frequencies while supporting Pactor 2 and 3 on ham frequencies.

The newest SCS modems (Pactor IIIusb, Dragon 7400, and Dragon 7800) seem to be more efficient at Pactor 3 than the older modems. The data is anecdotal and no one claims a huge difference.

If your plans include Sailmail I would definitely get a Dragon 7400 if your means allow.

If resources are limited or you will only use Winlink in and around the US I would look hard at the used market for Pactor IIusb and perhaps Pactor IIpro devices. I would avoid the IIex (harder to integrate) and the IInet (paying for capabilities you don't need).

Let me know if I can help.

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Re: Pactor Modem

That Pactor news link, once again, reminds me of how antiquated this whole SSB modem business is. There should be an app for that. Seriously. May require some interfacing hardware from the SSB to the tablet, but Pactor seems to find a large enough market as is.


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I am thinking about adding a Pactor Modem to my recently installed icom 802 SSB.

Are there advantages to the newer modems or will an older version purchased on eBay suffice?

I recently heard at a boat show that the Pactor 4 could not be used in the USA but cannot find anything more about this. Any insight?

Any advice welcomed

Many thanks!

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Gary Woods at Farallon is quite good.

Even better customer service and a wider range of knowledge from Gary Jensen at Dockside Radio.

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Hello Mark.

Pactor 4 is perfectly legal on the marine bands worldwide. All the Sailmail stations support Pactor 4.

Pactor 4 is not legal in the US on the ham bands. It is legal pretty much everywhere else in the world. The FCC is considering changes. We'll see.

Many Winlink (ham) stations have updated to Pactor 4 modems, including some in the US who use Pactor 4 on Mars and other government frequencies while supporting Pactor 2 and 3 on ham frequencies.

The newest SCS modems (Pactor IIIusb, Dragon 7400, and Dragon 7800) seem to be more efficient at Pactor 3 than the older modems. The data is anecdotal and no one claims a huge difference.

If your plans include Sailmail I would definitely get a Dragon 7400 if your means allow.

If resources are limited or you will only use Winlink in and around the US I would look hard at the used market for Pactor IIusb and perhaps Pactor IIpro devices. I would avoid the IIex (harder to integrate) and the IInet (paying for capabilities you don't need).

Let me know if I can help.

Thank you so very much for the detailed response. This is one of those things with which I need to become better educated. I figured we'll have more time to understand once we start to cruise. Right now, we just need to get going. I will opt for the Dragon 7400,

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Hi Mark,

I'm glad I could help.

Without knowing your complete circumstances, some quick thoughts:

- spend a bit of time understanding HF (SSB) radio propagation. Wikipedia is a good start. You might also try my webinars at Seven Seas U. It isn't at all hard but will make your experience with your new radio much more pleasant.

- go through the help file in Airmail when you set up your Pactor modem. You'll want to set the levels properly. Not hard, and there are step by step instructions. Oh - when you set up Airmail, tell it that your modem is a IIusb. Airmail will accept that and later change it to IIpro. Leave it be. It will talk to the 7400 just fine.

- get the right cables. Gary at Dockside Radio can sort you out. If you're in the middle Chesapeake Bay I can help. You'll find my contact information on the Sailmail website.

- aside from some minor regulatory things you have to learn, there is NOTHING in the Technician and General class amateur radio exams you shouldn't know anyway to be a self-sufficient cruiser. Get the ARRL guides and take them with you. Get your ham license.

- join SSCA.

- don't leave the dock before understanding how to use the 802, 7400, and Airmail to receive weather fax. Weather information is a life safety issue.

- get off the dock. I don't mean to seem contradictory but too many people spend too long "getting ready" only to discover that their priorities, driven by books, magazines, and advice, are different than expected. There is no substitute for figuring out what is important for yourself.

Enjoy.

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Thank you so very much for the detailed response. This is one of those things with which I need to become better educated. I figured we'll have more time to understand once we start to cruise. Right now, we just need to get going. I will opt for the Dragon 7400
I don't remember if the 7400 has the Bluetooth option but the 7800 does and it is my preferred way to connect.

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