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Big Screen MFD's -- what's too big?

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I am looking at the Raymarine C90W as the backbone of my radar / chartplotter / instrumentation / autohelm system. The Raymarine equipment solves a lot of problems in terms of integration, cost and ease of instalation. What concerns me is that the C90W (a 12"+ wide console) is downright huge (it is the smallest unit in the new Raymarine line). I am worried that it will take over the helm station on my 33' sailboat and become too dominant a feature. Has anyone installed a MFD at the helm and later regretted installing such a large monitor?
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I think your concern is valid. I couldn't picture a 12" unit on my 34'
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I'd be more concerned about the Raymarine C90W stopping working.

Because then you lose your radar, chartplotter, instrumentation, Autohelm all at the same time. If you add some other features, you can lose your depth and wind info as well.

Nah, seperate instruments for me.
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Also,...isn't Raymarine...in trouble??..
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I'd be more concerned about the Raymarine C90W stopping working.

Because then you lose your radar, chartplotter, instrumentation, Autohelm all at the same time. If you add some other features, you can lose your depth and wind info as well.

Nah, seperate instruments for me.
Thanks. That's a pretty valid concern. The GPS Chartplotter is one unit. Beyond that, the autopilot is a separate system which can be controled at the C90W (but has its own control head). Similarly, the instruments have separate control heads.
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Also,...isn't Raymarine...in trouble??..
Yup, Raymarine is apparently in trouble (those I doubt they will cease to exist). I figure you weigh the fact that Garmin and others change their units every year against the fact that RM (who has maintained and updated the same core integration for 10+ years) is in financial trouble. Its kind of a toss up. Garmin doesn't make an autopilot and their instruments are way more expensive (I do like their charting much better than RM . . .).

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do you have a radar unit now?...or were you planning on purchasing them together?
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I was going to buy them together (I have a raymarine system on board but it is not functional -- only the radar mount is salvagable -- I do have a couple RL70C monitors f/s if anyone is interested). The C90W radar pack comes in at @ 2800 for the radar and GPS / chartplotter. The ST60 system pack is about 1200 and includes complete wind speed and depth systems. I already have a RM wheelpilot.

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well...it's certainly priced right...

Would you need to get a navpod to mount it in...and what about the pedestal guard?...is that tall enough or would you have to replace it?
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The standard "U-shaped" mount has got to be too wide for the edson pedestal guard. I think that makes a Navpod the most likely alternative (I would leave my instruments on the back of the house and permenantly mount the MFD on the pedestal). That raises a whole 'nother set of questions though. It's nice to be able to turn the display forward so I can navigate from under the dodger . . . that'd be out with a navpod / fixed installation.

This whole thing just "feels" off. Last night I found that RM is still selling its old C70 series. The size is appealing but it is definitely a generation past (2kw radar instead of 4, no base charting all navionics cards, can't add a second station, cheaper sticker but same price after integrating it, etc).

Does anyone have experience running Raymarine instrumentation through Garmin MFDs? What functions are lost? Can the wheelpilots be run from the Garmin?
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