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Re: ipad as instrumentation...

I concur with Chuckles about the Raymarine unit. We have that plus our I Pad. There are many other advantages to the chartplotter. Radar ( superimposed over cartography), AIS etc. For its cost a good chartplotter is a good investment. It should outlive the I PAD as well in the marine environment. The I Pad is hard to see in sunlight from angles other than direct head on. The cost $800 + app vs $1500 difference is not that much when yoiu consider longevity.

IPAD works for me as a good backup or secondary source.

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Re: ipad as instrumentation...

Ipads just cost too much, I mean I get it - they are in fact better tablets than most 'droid based tablets - but...

For 200 bucks I can throw a Kindle Fire down on my nav station/salon table. That Fire, or any 7 inch or bigger tablet is a complete remote for the e7d - right down to the rotary control and the touch screen.
When networked properly I can see everything from fuel/water tank levels to oil pressure and rpm's of the engine.
I can see wind, true, apparent, vectors and polar's. Checking leeway for current, tide sets and drifts etc. is a snap.
I can also read hundreds of books from multiple sources including library's along the way, browse etc..just like a "I".
And in a year or two, I can either throw it away or give it away - and buy another one and still only have spent half what a pad costs.

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Re: ipad as instrumentation...

I just brought a 60 footer to Newport from Holland MI. Through four lakes, the canals, the Hudson R, and Long Island Sound I didn't put a paper chart on the nav table. I've done the same coming up from the VI to New England, too. I find the iPad running iNavX to be an excellent tool and when I get my own boat, I will be trying to figure a way to at least make the iPad the only instrument at the nav station.
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The Ipad is great for email and web surfing. It would be OK as a 2nd backup to a dedicated chartplotter for navigation (I wouldn't want it to be my only backup). I'll occasionally use it for planning purposes just sitting in the cockpit at anchor (using Navtonics charts) but is not going to take the place of the chartplotter with the radar overlay or the Garmin 478 GPSMap backup which can get wet, can be dropped hard and can be seen in the brightest sunlight.

I have 600+ waypoints and 50-60 routes for the Maine coast, Naraganset Bay and the Chesapeake that I can easily update and keep consistent between three different Garmin units. I would not mind being able to upload the waypoints and routes to the Navionics app I have on the IPhone and IPad. That would make the Ipad a little viable as a backup. There is no way I'm re-entering those.
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I've had good luck using Navionics on my Samsung Galaxy 10" tablet, using a kit that mounts it to the Edson Pedestal. Seems as accurate as the PC-based chartplotter at the nav station down below.
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Using an iPad has a few challenges, and solving them doesn't leave it cheap:
1) not waterproof
2) waterproof cases that don't make the screen harder to read and which allow you to use a power cable are expensive
3) ones with good mounts for a sailboat are even more expensive
4) NMEA integration is very expensive
5) Our two iPads aren't the 3G models, and the Dual brand bluetooth GPS that we have for them doesn't have an internal compass, so the heading information is interpolated and almost useless.

By the time I solve all of these problems it seems cheaper and better to just get a Raymarine a67 (which is the new cheaper variation of the e7d). The smaller size is nice too, and I can use the iPad as a big display inside the cabin if and when I need to.
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I use Charts and Tides on the Ipad as a backup to my chartplotter. It got me out of an unmarked, shallow and very rocky harbor in Maine, when my plotter went belly up just as we hauled the anchor.


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I have pretty much decided to do just iNavx with a bluetooth gps puck and leave it at that. It will be cheaper and have a larger screen than a chartplotter in a my price range. The multiplexer option was too involved and $$$ considering that I would have to get all new sending units.
It looked cool but I am not willing to invest more than the cost of the boat in instrumentation...LOL
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Ipads just cost too much, I mean I get it - they are in fact better tablets than most 'droid based tablets - but...

For 200 bucks I can throw a Kindle Fire down on my nav station/salon table. That Fire, or any 7 inch or bigger tablet is a complete remote for the e7d - right down to the rotary control and the touch screen.
When networked properly I can see everything from fuel/water tank levels to oil pressure and rpm's of the engine.
I can see wind, true, apparent, vectors and polar's. Checking leeway for current, tide sets and drifts etc. is a snap.
I can also read hundreds of books from multiple sources including library's along the way, browse etc..just like a "I".
And in a year or two, I can either throw it away or give it away - and buy another one and still only have spent half what a pad costs.
Yes, I agree, but I would choose the Nexus 7 at 200 as it has built in GPS as well, but you know how it is a "moving target" kind of thing. The big advantage I see of the apple products are accessories, you have the life case that is supposed to be waterproof (well at least very water resistant) and the best I have found for Android is the Otter Box and that case is bulky and not really very well made and definitely not water resistant. At least it was not too expensive. The holster on my otter box broke, and I sent an email, and they sent 2 replacements that also broke all within 2 months. And I am not hard on my equipment. (had my original droid for 3 years and still looked almost new)

But you can buy several androids for the price of one i device.
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This cracks me up. When Windows dominated the PC market, there was a very vocal contingent that swore the Mac was superior. Now Apples iPhone is the clear market leader and the Droid contingent swear their's is superior.

In most impartial tech reviews, the iPhone does edge out the rest, but they do give credit to cost to some Droid products.

We decided to have a "choose your device" policy at the company. All the Droid users are very frustrated by bugs and difficult synching issues. The iPhone users turned theirs on and have never been heard from again. We are seriously considering requiring all to carry the iPhone, like it or not.


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