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This is an edited post. Initially it was me bitching about SeaTalk cable connections.

Problem solved.

Cause of Problem: Stupidity of Skipper (me).

What I thought was the open position on the collar was the closed, and vice versa. (The one I did successfully connect to begin with was a result of blind luck, because I had it arse-backwards.)

So I wanted to no longer malign Raymarine, and I apologize to them. And if you are looking for a fool, I'm your guy.

At least I went on the World Wide Web to let everyone know I'm an idiot!

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Re: Connecting Raymarine SeaTalk NG parts

Seatalk NG is NMEA 2000 with different size connectors. On the 5 way block you should be able to insert the wire and turn the blue or white collar.
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Re: Connecting Raymarine SeaTalk NG parts

Both Seatalk NG and Simnet address an issue with normal NMEA 2000 connectors - the collar is quite big and makes the cables hard to route through tight spaces. In comparison, the proprietary ones are a dream to route.

Sorry you're having trouble with the connectors. Maybe a squirt with WD40 would help the collar to turn nicely? Unfortunately, you don't say precisely WHAT the problem you are having IS, so it's hard to help.

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Re: Connecting Raymarine SeaTalk NG parts

I've never had a problem connecting mine, color for color, white in white, blue in blue.
If it's not a simple 'stick it in' you got something wrong or a defective part.

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Re: Connecting Raymarine SeaTalk NG parts

Make sure that you are inserting the cable the right way. It can start to go in at two different orientations, but only one will work (there is a key and keyway).

I haven't had any trouble beyond that. The locking rings on my P70 control head are a lot stiffer than the locking rings on my 5-way connectors.

I cheated and powered my Seatalk NG network off of the X5 course computer by adding a 5 amp fuse between the X5 power and the Seatalk power wires. This isn't ideal if you have a large Seatalk NG network, but should work fine on my small one. Mostly it saved me from having to find a backbone cable on a Sunday morning to connect all 3 of my devices.

Seatalk NG doesn't only solve the smaller cable size, it also makes all cables female. The differentiation between backbone and spur cables is stupid, but otherwise I think it is a pretty good system.

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Re: Connecting Raymarine SeaTalk NG parts

Hey guys,

I really appreciate all the feedback.

Here's my situation. I took the first one (course computer to T; spur, white), saw the key and keyway, inserted the cable into the T, pushed it all the way in, turned the collar. Done.

But none the other ones will physically go in. I cannot push the cable end (or terminator) into the T far enough to turn the collar. At one point in my efforts, the collar came off, so while it was off, I made sure that the cable would go in if the collar was missing. It does. I even tried putting the collar on after a terminator was plugged in, but no dice. I cannot figure out what is different with the one connection from the others. I am virtually certain that I am going about them all exactly the same way.

My wife and co-skipper (with a good eye for detail) just got home,and I am going to let her take a run at it.

Would anyone think it wise to try some grease, and if so, what kind? I have some dielectric silicone. But I'm afraid of grease getting in the tiny female holes.

It is stupefying. When I first got the controller, a fellow sailor was here, and he is an old electronics hand (and an electric engineer). He also could not get a spur cable to seat and connect properly on the back of the controller.

I have almost destroyed one of my terminators now, trying to get it on.

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Re: Connecting Raymarine SeaTalk NG parts

Problem solved.

Cause of Problem: Stupidity of Skipper (me).

What I thought was the open position on the collar was the closed, and vice versa. (The one I did successfully connect to begin with was a result of blind luck, because I had it arse-backwards.)

So I want to no longer malign Raymarine, and I apologize to them. I did above also. If you are looking for a fool, I'm your guy.

Thanks for your willingness to help.
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