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wireless vs wired

I am buying a used Archambault Surprise which does not come with any instruments except a compass. I will be doing day sailing and entering club races. The boat draft is 1.60m so I thought a depth sounder may be useful. I am wondering if I should go for a wireless system like the Tacktick by Raymarine (Depth,Speed and Wind for eg) or a wired system (Raymarine, Simrad,Nexus). What are the pros and cons of wireless vs wired. I live in Dubai so it is hot to very hot at least 9 months of the year, so I need something quite sturdy if it is going to be fixed outside the cockpit.

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Re: wireless vs wired

If there are no instruments installed as you mention, I would say a wireless system such as Tack Tick (now owned by Raymarine) is the way to go. The installation is very easy, especially the mast head wind instrument as it does not need a wire down the mast obviously. The Depth & Speed are hard wired to the transmitter but the instrument heads are wireless so mounting them is as easy as hanging a picture.

The cost is slightly higher for TT than wired units of similar capabilities but you will save some $$ on wire and installation cost if you were to have someone do it.

I have been very pleased with my Tack Tick T104 system. There is one anchorage where the mast head go out for a brief period, there must be some type of disruption to the signal there, weird. The solar charge on the head unit will keep them going 24/7 even with overcast skies and use of the light at night. My most extended use of them was about a 2 week cruise in which I never turned them off and the battery meter never went below half, with several days of overcast skies.

The TT also should integrate well with other electronics and the TT offers a wide variety of screens that when connected to a GPS can provide allot more info, ha, just the other day I found a setting that will tell me the date & time Still learning how to use them. The Wind Unit has a nice feature for close hauled sailing which I think is unique to TT and useful for racers.

Maine Sail has posted that he has observed the TT units to be troublesome, you may want to PM him for some more information, he will certainly not recommend them.

Another drawback of the wireless, someday I am going to have to replace the batteries. TT said about 7 years, so I have about 4 more to go I suppose. I may find that the cost to replace the batteries is not worth it, dunno, we shall see.

As mentioned, considering you have no instruments installed, you live where I am guessing solar would operate well, I would really consider wireless, Tack Tick or others.

Good luck, PM me if you have anymore questions
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Re: wireless vs wired

Wired is going to take you longer to install, but personally, I just don't really trust any sort of wireless connection. You know that the signal is going to disappear just when you need it most, and a wireless signal is practically impossible to troubleshoot. At least with a wire you can perform basic checks such as continuity etc.
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Re: wireless vs wired

In terms of costs, wired is cheaper on parts and labour in Dubai is cheap in comparison so I am tempted by having a wired system. I am just concerned by corrosion as our waters are very salty in comparison to Europe. I would say it is twice as salty as the Mediterranean Sea.How often would you have to rewire your sailboat ?
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Re: wireless vs wired

Well you shouldn't be getting too much in the way of salt water anywhere near the cabling so it shouldn't matter. Try to keep the water on the outside
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Re: wireless vs wired

PAUL., I suppose you're still using a phone with a cord? no remote for your TV? no radio? LOL. Just sayin
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Re: wireless vs wired

On our current boat we inherited a 10+ year old TT system (wind, speedo/depth). I've been very pleased with it, and I expect the current versions are even better. The only issue I've run into is battery replacement -- had to send a unit back to TT, but perhaps things have changed now.

The only other issue I've read about is the limitations on mast hight with regard to the windy. There is a maximum transmission distance that you can't exceed. Other than that, no problems. I would go with another TT system in the future.

P.S. I'm not sure how a wired system could be cheaper in labour. Almost by definition, the wireless is going to be easier to install ... no?
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Re: wireless vs wired

I have been quoted a fee of $400 for installation.I need to see if I can get a discount on this.
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You can do it yourself pretty easily...even if someone just puts the windy on top for you it will only take 30 minutes of labor.
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Re: wireless vs wired

Hi if u rewire I recommend the wire integrated with tin it won't rot! Also if its steel never have a common earth. Personally I'm for wireless and includes navigation at a PC below decks that communicates with an iPad in the cockpit. Good luck.
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