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studman575 05-07-2014 08:21 AM

Ericson 27 Newbie Needs lots of advice.
 
Hey guys, I have a Ericson 27ft. I purchased last year. Its currently moored on the florida west coast. I have a couple questions.

It has 3 chain plates that need repair. I do not know much about this. I have not ever done fiberglass repair. There are a couple guys where it is moored that said they would repair it for about $1000 dollars including a cable as well. They are wanting to affix the chain plates on the outside of the hull instead of inside like they were. I do not know much about this other than the looks of the boat will change.

Second question, The jib sail, which has a roller furling. How easy is it to remove this ail to put a new one on. The old one needs to be replaced.

Sorry one more question, Its currently moored for free. I would like to get to a slip, however they are about $9 to $10 a foot. Pro's and Cons. I know the biggest is cost.

I am def. a newbie to sailing, no nothing other than what I've read. The wife and I want to learn. I have owned several boats, but this is the first Sailboat.

Any tips or advice would be appreciated.

Alex W 05-07-2014 09:10 AM

Re: Ericson 27 Newbie Needs lots of advice.
 
There is another forum called Ericson Yacht Owners where you can probably get better model specific advice (if not find pre-existing threads on subjects like replacing the chain plates). Unless the chainplates are epoxied into the hull $1000 seems like a lot of money to replace them. On a boat of that era they would typically be bolted to the bulkheads.

CharlzO 05-07-2014 11:57 AM

Re: Ericson 27 Newbie Needs lots of advice.
 
For the chainplates, it'll likely depend on exactly what needs to be repaired. However, even following some DIYs, you should be able to replace all three completely for well under that 1000 dollars. Are the bulkheads underneath intact? Or will that need replacing as well? A lot of factors to consider, based on what's wrong with them.

2nd, it depends on if you're willing to drop the mast or not. If so, it'd be pretty straightforward to replace. If not, it's still not impossible, but you'll have to go up the mast for the masthead connections, etc. Adds a little difficulty to it, depending on how eager you are to climb 30' whilst strapped in.

3rd, well, the pros are easy enough. You won't have to dinghy in and out all the time. You potentially have access to power constantly depending on the dock. You usually would have the marina's facilities available, bathrooms, showers, etc. To a lesser extent, you also get to mingle with your neighbors a bit more, depending on if you or they are people persons. You're also usually a little more sheltered from the weather and waves, at least compared to out on a mooring.

Cons: Well, not EVERYONE likes being close and tight to other people. You have the potential for more noise - usually halyard slapping sounds, etc. Some like it, others hate it. You also have the added fun of docking in a crowd, tighter turns, and such. And obviously the cost.

Off of the top of my head, that's all I got.

Faster 05-07-2014 01:52 PM

Re: Ericson 27 Newbie Needs lots of advice.
 
If the $1K includes new shrouds and labour that's not unreasonable, seems to me, for the three of them.

As to dropping the jib it does depend on the specific furler but generally you will have a halyard coiled up somewhere.. simply free the tail end, release the cleat/clutch/stopper and let the sail drop out of the furler groove onto the deck. Then disconnect the tack (bottom front corner) from the drum - likely a screw pin shackle - and the head (top corner) from the lower half of the furler swivel. Store the halyard to a convenient place on deck until you're ready to raise another sail.

There's a lot of convenience in having a slip over a mooring.. in your case with a free alternative I think you'd want to be sure you need the (expensive) convenience.

Puddin'_Tain 05-07-2014 03:22 PM

Re: Ericson 27 Newbie Needs lots of advice.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Faster (Post 1815506)
If the $1K includes new shrouds and labour that's not unreasonable, seems to me, for the three of them.
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I would agree, and add that if you're going to replace three you might as well get a quote for replacing all the standing rigging. If the boat has three bad chainplates I would think that, at a minimum, taking the mast down and closely inspecting everything would be in order.

mikel1 05-08-2014 07:39 PM

Re: Ericson 27 Newbie Needs lots of advice.
 
Ericsonyachts.org Great group that knows and loves to share everything ericson . . . there are some very friendly ericson 27 owners on Floridas west coast you can find them at ericsonyachts.org

Alex W 05-10-2014 07:07 AM

Re: Ericson 27 Newbie Needs lots of advice.
 
I did a quick search and the E-27 does have chainplates buried in the fiberglass. There are photos in this thread:
Chainplates on E-27
and nice drawings in this one:
E 27 Chain plates

This looks like a major project.

Puddin'_Tain 05-10-2014 10:04 AM

Re: Ericson 27 Newbie Needs lots of advice.
 
Given how close those shroud chainplates are to the edge of the deck, if they need replacing anyway, I would just move them outboard and bolt them on the othe outside of the hull. You'll lose a little bit of sheeting angle; but not enough to worry about.

Like in this pick from the end of the second link, above:

http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexc...1&d=1225474164


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