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Re: Self Tailing Winches

I would agree that 30s are way too small for a 32 foot boat. I have Lewmar 42s on my 30 footer and they are too small. The 30s on the cabin top a barely big enough. However it should not be based strictly on the boat lenght, if you go to the Lewmar site of who ever they list winches based on sail size since obviously racing boats carry bigger sails relative to their length.
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I would love self tailing winches. But I don't get why they're so expensive?
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Re: Self Tailing Winches

Asdf38, I'd like to know, too.

My Bristol 29.9 came with Lewmar 30 non-self-tailers, chromed bronze winches with a good bit of the chrome worn off. I added Winchers and they do a pretty good job, but it takes a hard pull to set my 3/8" jib sheets into them. So far, it's been all too easy for my cheap-ass Scotsman genes to take over from my "oh I'd like some new stuff" yearnings.

However, I just sold the boat I'd sailed before the Bristol, and I could readily and easily persuade myself to put some of the proceeds into the 'new' boat. Since I've got the new sails, and a "stack-pack" cover/catcher for the mains'l, new winches are a temptation; and a pair of new Lewmar Evo 30ST's are within reach - even at $900 each.

Question - are they $1750 more convenient than Winchers?
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Re: Self Tailing Winches

I put these on my boat...are they worth the $1800 I paid for the pair? Absolutely! They allow my wife to grind the sail in with two hands, and I don't have to tail! And they look good too!



I had winchers on my old winches; they were ok but really no substitute for proper self tailers. They are better than nothing I guess.
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Re: Self Tailing Winches

No question if I was re-winching it would be Andersens.
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Re: Self Tailing Winches

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But I don't get why they're so expensive?
Because the sailboat market is small and they don't make enough for the economies of scale to lower the price and because it's for a boat.

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I think so. IMO, the difference between a Wincher and an ST winch is the difference between a Yugo and a BMW. They both get the job done, but one does it with a lot less drama.
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Re: Self Tailing Winches

FWIW my 32' uses Lewmar 42s.
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Because the sailboat market is small and they don't make enough for the economies of scale to lower the price and because it's for a boat.
Clarification: I don't get why they're so expensive compared to regular winches, for which (basically) all the same issues apply.
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Re: Self Tailing Winches

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Clarification: I don't get why they're so expensive compared to regular winches, for which (basically) all the same issues apply.
I hadn't thought about the price difference between ST and non ST since I was in the market for the former. A quick search of a couple of sites and I find they don't even list a non ST version of my winch. In my mind if you were going to the expense of replacing your primary winches with new ones, why would you get anything BUT self tailing? It would be silly to buy brand new winches and then put those Winchers on them!
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Clarification: I don't get why they're so expensive compared to regular winches, for which (basically) all the same issues apply.
That, I can't answer. The only difference is a pawl and gripper. Maybe the reason is "because they can get away with it".
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