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algee 06-01-2013 09:17 PM

Self Tailing Winches
I sail an Endeavour 32 with Barlow 24 2 speed non Self Tailing winches. I have a chance to buy Lewmar 30st winches for what I think is a good price. I have never had self tailers. Do you think it would be worth it to upgrade? and do you think the Lewmar 30st would be big enough?

JeffBurright 06-01-2013 09:38 PM

Re: Self Tailing Winches
Self tailing winches are amazing. That is all.

That is not all. It is so nice to be able to make micro-adjustments to your sails with one hand. Laziness? Perhaps. But isn't well-engineered laziness the unspoken goal of the serious sailor?

One of our self-tailers went on the fritz last month and we had to use its non-tailing brother for a while. We got a taste for how the other half lives (self-tailers are one of our few luxuries), and it was like rubbing your belly while patting your head. I don't know how you do it. Come into the light!

Faster 06-01-2013 09:41 PM

Re: Self Tailing Winches
A couple of useful links below for specs and comparisons... If short handed and not racing ST winches are great.. I wouldn't choose ST if a lot of round the cans racing is involved.. A grinder and tailer is much faster and non ST winches cleaner to work with.

Winch Comparisons

JimsCAL 06-02-2013 09:35 AM

Re: Self Tailing Winches
The 30ST is a bit small for a 32 foot boat as the main winches. I would go up a size if you can.

Sabreman 06-02-2013 09:54 AM

Self Tailing Winches
Do it. While you don't say what their purpose will be, I agree that 30s may be a little small for primaries.

tommays 06-02-2013 10:09 AM

Re: Self Tailing Winches
I have those ST30s on the Cal 29 and while there GREAT there just enough on the 29

On the boats i race on the the ST is not a problem as we have a tailer and grinder BUT it allows one person to trim after the hard part is done and lock it much master if we need a big hike

overbored 06-02-2013 12:14 PM

Re: Self Tailing Winches
The old numbers are not the same as the newer numbers for winch sizes. A Barlow 24 is about the same size as a Lewmar 44. a Lewmar 30 is a lot to small for a genny on a 32' boat. check the drum size. the Barlow 24 is a 3 5/8" drum and the lewmar 30 is a 2 5/16" .

Liquorice 06-02-2013 10:21 PM

Re: Self Tailing Winches
After new sails, self tailers are the next best investment you can make for your boat - bar none!

capttb 06-02-2013 10:43 PM

Re: Self Tailing Winches
FWIW my 32' boat uses Lewmar 44's

SchockT 06-03-2013 02:27 AM

Re: Self Tailing Winches
I upgraded to Andersen 40ST primaries last year, and I consider it money well spent! Once you have tried self tailing, there is no going back. I have raced on plenty of boats that run STs as well, and they work just fine. Not only do they allow for a trimmer to grind without someone tailing, but later adjustments are done quickly with one hand! Far better than old school non-st winches! Some complain that the stripper gets in the way on the release, but that is simply a case of adapting your technique to the new hardware.

You definitely won't want to go smaller than 40 for a boat your size.

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