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Re: The Maintenance Learning Curve to Competence Conundrum

Have belts on the list already. ?any other thoughts. Even if could afford a bigger boat. then would not be able to afford to live on it. Work or cruise. Easy choice. Oh Welll........... Think once boats get so big you are dependent on powered winches/bow thrushers etc. or need to arrange crew to sail them they're too damn big. mid 40s is just about right for a couple of old farts. Lke watches to be one person. Then know who screwed up. (grin).Have the powered stuff but can sail her without it. Still like Mark's thinking(GRIN). Maybe he'll take me sailing on his 70' one off. By the way like bubbly and strawberries.
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Ah, Missed the belts.

Since you mention all the electrical/electronics, how about spare fuses in case one blows.
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Re: The Maintenance Learning Curve to Competence Conundrum

I envy you all. I'm a newbie owner and I'm still in the stage where every job seems nearly overwhelming. I have a lot of tools to buy and a lot of books to read.

From the electrical system to minor fiberglass, it all seems daunting. I keep telling myself... 6 months ago I wasn't confident at the helm and now I'll slide Ms. Marisol into a slip like an old pro. I just need time and practice.
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I showed up at the marina with a 42' boat and the ambition to go cruising. 3 years later my dockmates told me they didn't think I would make it and were happy I proved them wrong.

Replaced thru hulls & miles of hose
dried out and sealed up rudder
removed prop shaft to add new dripless shaft seal and coupler
changed out the 110v refer compressor for a 12 volt version
replaced steering conduit and cable
ripped out old house bank, built new bigger battery box and installed and wired new battery bank
added second battery charger and fused them both
replaced aircon and fixed poor ductwork
installed radar & chartplotter
installed solar panels and wind generator
various small cabinetry upgrades
tracked down leaks and fixed them
splicing, wiring, painting, varnishing

Meanwhile, admiral:
replaced bimini top & windows
recovered cockpit cushions
recovered salon cushions
supported my efforts

and we taught ourselves how to sail

I give credit to Nigel Calder and to internet resources like this one for making tons of information available.

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I'm still in the stage where every job seems nearly overwhelming. I have a lot of tools to buy and a lot of books to read.
Just one job at a time. And you only need half the tools, less, than everyone tells you! Further, I don't think I have any 'quality' tools. All mine are pretty affordable department store stuff.
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Just one job at a time. And you only need half the tools, less, than everyone tells you! Further, I don't think I have any 'quality' tools. All mine are pretty affordable department store stuff.
I think experience and tools are somewhat interchangeable. It sounds like you have experience - I have lots of tools instead. And I need them!

For me, having the right tools has been a massive productivity boost and although some of them I questioned as I handed over the credit card I regret almost none.

I actually opened this up to post a list of the tools in particular that I almost didn't buy or know about but have loved since:

Tools:

*Cordless Dremel (with wire wheels and flappers)
*Cordless oscillating multi tool (sanding, cutting)
*Cordless Wet Dry Vac

Electrical:

*Proper Crimpers
*Butane Cordless Soldering Iron/Heat shrink tool (ok I don't have this but I'm kicking myself because I just realized they existed)
*Zip tie puller/cutter - pulls the zip tie tight and cuts it leaving no sharp edge
*Self Fusing Tape

Other:

*Butyl Tape (Obviously)
*3M VHB two-sided tape. Super strong, weather/UV resistant.
*McMaster-Carr - best source for 316 hardware.
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Re: The Maintenance Learning Curve to Competence Conundrum

One thing I have found to be very helpful is the project logs from Lackey Sailing.
Lackey Sailing LLC | Restoring and Rebuilding Great* Boats

Some of the restoration projects almost look like step-by-step and how things are done. It shows that no project is too big for someone to accomplish for one person. Just making sure the right supplies are on hand, patience, and researching how to do it.
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The most frightening job I've done is drilling a new hole through a perfectly good hull below the water line for a transducer. It isn't hard, just get the right hole saw and bed the thing...but your drilling a hole through a perfectly good boat!
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wow xort- very encouraging story. been up since 6a reading manuals. just hope I can learn to do the servicing/maintenance for all the cr-p on this boat. Broker told me most folks never read their manuals. now doing it realize incredable amount of info in them and worthwhile exercise but way boring.
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at least 4 months of xorts 3 -year refit odyssey were spent looking for set-screws.
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