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Question How do I attach messenger line to the tail of my old main halyard?

It's time to replace my main halyard that was installed by the rigger when the mast was off several years ago. I do not have a reeving splice on the tail of the main halyard.

I'm going to order my new halyard w/ a reeving splice to make it easier, but first I have to use the old halyard (now on the mast and still working) to pull the messenger line through, so I can attach it to the reeving splice on the new halyard. The old halyard is probably Sta-Set (it's definitely double braid).

I have no splicing experience or tools. What is the best/ a good way to secure the messenger line to the tail of the old halyard so it won't come off while being pulled up & through the masthead sheave?

I'm going to use the 1/12" halyard leader that APS has as my messenger line (and will have them do up the new halyard too) -- Annapolis Performance Sailing (APS) - Halyard Leader - New England

I'm assuming some way of sewing it on or attachment other than mere lashing it, or lashing and taping but I'm not sure where to take it from there.

Thanks for any advice. If I have to I can have a local rigger come down and splice the messenger line on securely but that may be overkill in $ (?), though if the line comes off the old halyard I'll be calling him anyway to get the job done.

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Re: How do I attach messenger line to the tail of my old main halyard?

Duct tape. Enough wound around to secure but make sure it still goes through the block.
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Re: How do I attach messenger line to the tail of my old main halyard?

See the halyards with whopping twine end to end. Then tape.
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Re: How do I attach messenger line to the tail of my old main halyard?

Way too complicated, messenger lines and all. Just use the old halyard.

Simply pull about 8 inches of core out of the old halyard end and cut off, then stretch the mantle out alone, through reaving splice, and sew down flat to itself. Bomb-proof and takes only a few minutes.

Heck, there must be 100 ways.
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Re: How do I attach messenger line to the tail of my old main halyard?

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SeW the halyards with whIpping twine end to end. Then tape.
This works too... though the whopping twine threw me at first.
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Re: How do I attach messenger line to the tail of my old main halyard?

I have sewed them end to end
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Re: How do I attach messenger line to the tail of my old main halyard?

I just did mine. I heated both ends with my mini torch and stuck them together. Then I sewed them with some whipping twine. Seemed pretty strong.
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Re: How do I attach messenger line to the tail of my old main halyard?

In our experience taping works 50% of the time.. sucks when it lets go halfway through.. sewing is more secure, just use a few loops of whipping twine...
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Re: How do I attach messenger line to the tail of my old main halyard?

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In our experience taping works 50% of the time.. sucks when it lets go halfway through.. sewing is more secure, just use a few loops of whipping twine...
I agree with Faster...don't duct tape. It may get caught in the sheeve, it may catch on the opening as its now thicker than the original line if taped. It may get the sheeve sticky with tape glue.

Safest way which works 100% of the time is take 5 minutes and sew them together. Why risk failure at the top or inside the mast where its no easily corrected.
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Re: How do I attach messenger line to the tail of my old main halyard?

I replaced both jib and main halyards. The old ones had been left untouched, uncleaned, unprotected for 3.5 years on the hard. Parts were mouldy, parts were crusty. I used the yellow floating line that is now attached to our life ring. Starting 2 inches in I started spiral taping with electrical tape. Holding the two lines butt end to but end (2 extra hands help) i taped about 5 inches on either side of the joint. I could not pull them apart. The electrical tape was very flexible and I had no issues. Used the same method to install the new ones. The 3rd halyard (spinnaker??) is jammed at the top so that will wait until the fall when I drop the mast. Of course replacing it means I have to go buy a spinnaker or something light weight.
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