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caberg 06-12-2013 12:21 PM

CDI Furler Halyard is Getting Stuck
 
When I bought the boat last summer, the prior owner helped me rig the sails. We had trouble getting the genoa up on the furler, and he did something involving an aerosal spray can, I presume lubricant, but I do not know what he did. I started working on something else while he fiddled with it, and then it was up about 10 minutes later. Should've paid more attention.

So basically, the halyard for the furler, with or without the genoa on it, is very hard to move up and down. The genoa came down fine last fall, but when I reversed direction on the halyard, it then seemed to jam in place. And that's where I'm at. I can't see anything that looks wrong, though I haven't gone up the mast and don't want to if it can be helped.

Ideas?

DonScribner 06-12-2013 12:26 PM

Re: CDI Furler Halyard is Getting Stuck
 
Look for some McLube Sailkote to lube the boltrope as it enters the foil. Regular spray silicone from Wally World should do the same for cheaper.

mbetter 06-12-2013 12:47 PM

Re: CDI Furler Halyard is Getting Stuck
 
Silicone has no place on a boat, don't use it.

Sailkote is good stuff and almost certainly what the PO used.

Danjcon 06-12-2013 12:53 PM

Re: CDI Furler Halyard is Getting Stuck
 
I had the same problem with my CDI furler. When I took the mast down, it turned out that the aluminum pulley at the top halyard fixture was worn on one side, allowing the wire halyard to cut into the black plastic fixture. I replaced the pulley and the halyard (lots of fishhooks) and the genoa went up much more smoothly. Sailkote helped a tiny bit, but the bolt rope was not the problem.

Faster 06-12-2013 01:17 PM

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This was my first thought.. if the halyard by itself is dragging/stuck then it's most likely off the pulley at the top of the foil...

caberg 06-12-2013 01:29 PM

Re: CDI Furler Halyard is Getting Stuck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Faster (Post 1043181)
if the halyard by itself is dragging/stuck then it's most likely off the pulley at the top of the foil...

The halyard by itself is dragging/stuck, and this is what I am afraid of. Conceptually, this would make sense. However, it appeared we had the same problem last season, and within 10 minutes the sail did eventually go up.

There's probably no way to determine if it's the above issue without going up the mast to have a look-see?

Not sure if it makes a difference, but I believe mine is the Flexible Furler, and more specifically the FF2. http://www.sailcdi.com/sailpdf/FF2%20manual%206_12.pdf

Faster 06-12-2013 01:34 PM

Re: CDI Furler Halyard is Getting Stuck
 
Can you get alongside a taller pier or structure and get a 'closer look' without climbing the rig? Binoculars can help here too... Or is a mast tower accessible to you? Another boat with mast steps?

IIRC it's not that big a deal to slip the furler off the forestay, you'll need to replace the part anywya..

DonScribner 06-12-2013 03:50 PM

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NO silicone on boats??? The folks at Ronstat MAY disagree with you

Azzarac 06-12-2013 06:02 PM

Re: CDI Furler Halyard is Getting Stuck
 
Caberg, I'm assuming on your 26 you are using the CDI FF2 and are referring to the internal halyard. If so, take a close look at the furler luff. Is there any twist or bend? If so that is where your problem lies. I just replaced mine this spring because it was so distorted from 16 years in the desert sun I could no longer move the carrier through the channel without a hammer and screw driver to assist in the operation. Here you can see the new one compared to the old side by side:
http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4cf89096.jpg

caberg 06-13-2013 09:17 AM

Re: CDI Furler Halyard is Getting Stuck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Azzarac (Post 1043279)
Caberg, I'm assuming on your 26 you are using the CDI FF2 and are referring to the internal halyard. If so, take a close look at the furler luff. Is there any twist or bend? If so that is where your problem lies. I just replaced mine this spring because it was so distorted from 16 years in the desert sun I could no longer move the carrier through the channel without a hammer and screw driver to assist in the operation. Here you can see the new one compared to the old side by side:
http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4cf89096.jpg

Yes, I am almost positive it is the FF2 and it does have an internal halyard. Without looking directly at the luff right now, I would not say it has any large "twists" or "bends" but it's also not straight as an arrow.

How much did a new luff cost and how hard was it to change it out?

I'd love to get another season out of it since I'm late on getting the boat in the water as it is, and once the genoa is up, I'm all set. Can you elaborate on "using a hammer and screw driver to assist in the operation"? Again, I'm not looking right at the luff, but how do you assist the halyard moving internally?


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