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Re: Cost to Replace Chainplates? Should I Walk Away?

Unless you simply like throwing away money I seriously suggest you give this man a call. He made my chain plates and another guys at my marina and they are WAY beefier than what I had and were almost too cheap to believe. Its high quality work but he charges extra for polishing, boring holes, ect ect. I just simply had the plates made and did the polishing and booring myself. I am not related to this man and have no continued working relation with him what so ever. Talon on this website also used him I believe after I gave him his info.


Mr. James Idel. He works under the business Fab Solutions. His phone number is (904) 982-6113.
Id give him a call- what could it hurt?
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Re: Cost to Replace Chainplates? Should I Walk Away?

I must have missed something between "some water evidence near one of the port chainplates" (rebed chainplates) and "I'll need to replace them regardless".
Do you mean you'll need to replace them regardless of whether they need replacement ?
Never mind, you got the survey, I've had leaky chainplates, never had "water incursion at the knee", that could take some work.

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Re: Cost to Replace Chainplates? Should I Walk Away?

I live near Los Angeles but the boat is in state of WA. Intent -if I ok the purchase- is leave in WA for several mos. and purchase a WA cruising permit. Do a little work on and off. Sail south. Stop in Oregon for some days on way south and enjoy seafood. Pass Kalifornia completely without stopping ashore and go to a shipyard then marina in Ensenada for several mos. Return to CA after one year. I have retained a marine atty who is consulting me on this. You-know-why.
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Re: Cost to Replace Chainplates? Should I Walk Away?

Well, my intent is serious voyaging so unfortunately I cannot trust any chainplates original to the boat. I'd be tickled pink to hear they had been replaced but it probably isn't so. Stainless is one metal that has a cumulative fatigue lifespan. Stainless work hardens. Work hardening means "brittle". A chainplate cycle loads and work hardens. I've heard of people removing their 'plates and breaking them in half with their hands. Easily.
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Thank You! I have put his contact info in my file. I'll follow up after the survey...
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Re: Cost to Replace Chainplates? Should I Walk Away?

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Well, my intent is serious voyaging so unfortunately I cannot trust any chainplates original to the boat. I'd be tickled pink to hear they had been replaced but it probably isn't so. Stainless is one metal that has a cumulative fatigue lifespan. Stainless work hardens. Work hardening means "brittle". A chainplate cycle loads and work hardens. I've heard of people removing their 'plates and breaking them in half with their hands. Easily.
I did exactly that with my headstay fitting. It looked O/K but had some brown staining so I buffed it up with my buffing wheels. It came up like chrome but there was a faint hairline scratch remaining - I buffed some more but it was still there. I took the whole fitting in my hands and tried to bend it whereupon it twisted like taffy and snapped through the hairline mark. I doubt it took 20 lbs of force to tear it in two and it had looked perfect - the hairline was nearly invisible.

At that point I pulled them all and made up new ones.
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Re: Cost to Replace Chainplates? Should I Walk Away?

FYI, after my chainplates broke a couple years ago various riggers and other experts strongly advised using the new titanium alloy chainplates are the only way to go.
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Re: Cost to Replace Chainplates? Should I Walk Away?

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I think I've read that some people have moved chain plates to the outer hull.
Here is how to do this on a CSY 44 CLICKY

NB Several CSY 44 owners have had chainplates fail.
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Re: Cost to Replace Chainplates? Should I Walk Away?

Thanks. I have heard that titanium does not corrode (or takes forever). I may pursue that route but if the trade-off in dollars for titanium 'plates is insanely high I may stick with 316. I also like that Ti does not need polishing. That because I don't see the life of a 1985 boat being 60+ years. My knowledge of titanium is relative to aircraft. I gotta assume the really huge mass of titanium required to fab up 6 chainplates is outrageously expensive. Metals have recently gone sky high in price. One tiny 3/8 aircraft bolt in titanium costs about $12++. But I applaud you for having the foresight to install titanium and never have to worry again. That's peace of mind and worth the cost.
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Re: Cost to Replace Chainplates? Should I Walk Away?

If your serious about going offshore then this project is a must and can be done by yourself. If your cruising plans are 10+ years and crossing several oceans then you will probably need to do the project again...probably in a little out of the way place with scant resources. I'm on my second set. DIY now, then you'll have the experience and knowledge to do it again.
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