Solenoid switch does not shut off propane - Page 2 - SailNet Community
 3Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 22 Old 06-30-2013
Member
 
PhilipStevens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Cornwall, UK
Posts: 82
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 14
 
Send a message via Skype™ to PhilipStevens
Re: Solenoid switch does not shut off propane

Quote:
one line from the (enclosed, properly draining) propane locker under the helmsman's seat that then Tee-d off in the boat to serve the stove and the heater. I replaced ALL the propane lines and removed the Tee so that each appliance has a dedicated line that runs from the propane locker directly to the the appliance
Just, (maybe) a stupid thought, but could the solenoid valve be on the heater line and not on the stove line, as you have replaced all the pipework from the gas bottle??

regards,
Philip.
PhilipStevens is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 22 Old 06-30-2013 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Jiminri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 275
Thanks: 12
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 3
 
Re: Solenoid switch does not shut off propane

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipStevens View Post
Just, (maybe) a stupid thought, but could the solenoid valve be on the heater line and not on the stove line, as you have replaced all the pipework from the gas bottle??
Ah no, another good thought but not the problem. The solenoid is located before the line splits into separate lines (all within the propane locker). Each of these lines has their own separate valve (in addition to the valves on the tanks themselves) and only the one to the stove is open.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Nonsuch 30 Ultra #343 1986
West River, MD
Jiminri is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #13 of 22 Old 06-30-2013
Member
 
PhilipStevens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Cornwall, UK
Posts: 82
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 14
 
Send a message via Skype™ to PhilipStevens
Re: Solenoid switch does not shut off propane

Yet another (possibly stupid) thought. Is the solenoid fitted the right way around? Inlet and outlet - if the wrong way around, gas would always flow.

regards,
Philip.
PhilipStevens is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #14 of 22 Old 06-30-2013
Oday30!
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 6,867
Thanks: 55
Thanked 121 Times in 110 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
Re: Solenoid switch does not shut off propane

Call the #$%@# heads that installed the Xintex. You left your boat with the Thing On???

Denise, Bristol PA, Oday 30. On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


My boat is sold!
deniseO30 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #15 of 22 Old 06-30-2013
Oday30!
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 6,867
Thanks: 55
Thanked 121 Times in 110 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
Re: Solenoid switch does not shut off propane

Quote:
Originally Posted by deniseO30 View Post
It's real easy to wire the valve to "on" So it's important to make sure it was wired properly. Not rocket science, but the terminal block on the xintex stuff can be a little confusing.
Some things bear repeating

Denise, Bristol PA, Oday 30. On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


My boat is sold!
deniseO30 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #16 of 22 Old 06-30-2013 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Jiminri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 275
Thanks: 12
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 3
 
Re: Solenoid switch does not shut off propane

Quote:
Originally Posted by deniseO30 View Post
Call the #$%@# heads that installed the Xintex. You left your boat with the Thing On???
Propane is positively turned off. Valves on the tanks themselves are off and the values that control flow into the separate lines (ALL within the propane locker) are off. I am pretty anal about only have the valves on when I'm actually using propane.

I decided against having the guys who installed it "fix" it because (a) if they screwed it up, I don't want them back and (b) if it is a bum solenoid--and so not their fault--then they aren't close to where the boat is now.

Wiring seems hard to screw up. The schematics that come with the Trident show two white wires that connect with the two black wired on the solenoid.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Nonsuch 30 Ultra #343 1986
West River, MD
Jiminri is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #17 of 22 Old 06-30-2013
rdw
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 47
Thanks: 15
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Re: Solenoid switch does not shut off propane

I am no expert on solenoids for propane but I do know that they are supposed to close via a spring when they fail or when there is no energy to they. I wonder if it were put in backwards (in the reverse of the flow of gas) could this cause your problem. If backwards the electrical magnetic field would open the valve but when no electrified the gas pressure would overcome the spring that would normally close the valve. I think I am correct that they can not be wired backward, i.e. they have two black wires not a negative and a positive. All they need is a current to develop magnetic field. Again this is just my wild guess but I would be very interested to here from you what you fine. The should be an arrow indicating the proper flow direction thru the valve.
rdw
rdw is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #18 of 22 Old 06-30-2013
Oday30!
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 6,867
Thanks: 55
Thanked 121 Times in 110 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
Re: Solenoid switch does not shut off propane

Page 5 if I have the right unit.
http://www.fireboy-xintex.com/manuals/S-2A%20Manual.pdf

Denise, Bristol PA, Oday 30. On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


My boat is sold!
deniseO30 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #19 of 22 Old 06-30-2013 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Jiminri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 275
Thanks: 12
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 3
 
Re: Solenoid switch does not shut off propane

Quote:
Originally Posted by deniseO30 View Post
Thanks Denise, but it is a Trident unit. P. 4 in the instructions. Wiring seems hard to screw up. But, who knows...

http://www.tridentmarine.com/stage/d...nmanual181.pdf


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Nonsuch 30 Ultra #343 1986
West River, MD
Jiminri is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #20 of 22 Old 06-30-2013
Oday30!
 
deniseO30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bristol pa
Posts: 6,867
Thanks: 55
Thanked 121 Times in 110 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
Re: Solenoid switch does not shut off propane

Betcha they hooked up one of the black wires from the sol, to the black "negative" wire on the control pad! Page 4

Denise, Bristol PA, Oday 30. On Tidal Delaware River, Anchor Yacht Club.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My last project!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


My boat is sold!
deniseO30 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Propane solenoid questions Gene T Gear & Maintenance 6 01-14-2010 07:45 PM
A/B switch for removing shut from battery circuit patrickstickler Gear & Maintenance 14 10-11-2009 12:22 PM
Is a propane Solenoid supposed to be hot ??? Sailormann Gear & Maintenance 15 05-27-2009 11:31 AM
Propane problem: solenoid or regulator? cleepq Gear & Maintenance 6 02-12-2009 08:07 PM
Propane solenoid control Shortman Gear & Maintenance 3 08-03-2008 09:49 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome