Bulkhead refinishing question - Page 2 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #11  
Old 06-30-2013
CalebD's Avatar
Tartan 27' owner
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 4,549
Thanks: 4
Thanked 87 Times in 80 Posts
Rep Power: 7
CalebD will become famous soon enough
Re: Bulkhead refinishing question

Another wood butcher here who hates Polyshades. What an awful product!

Since I'm not a fan of that finish I would NOT coat it with anything with anything except perhaps sandpaper! Let the weather get to it and maybe some of it will fall off.

What I like for finishing Teak & Mahogany is to oil the wood first (teak oil or tung oil) and then apply a coating like varnish or Cetol. Oils bring out the grain and color of the wood while most stains cover it.

Mostly, throw out or give away that Polys-hades crap.
__________________
"The cure for anything is salt water~ sweat, tears, or the sea." ~Isak Denesen

Everybody has one:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to CalebD For This Useful Post:
alongslowdrift (07-01-2013)
  #12  
Old 07-01-2013
Sabreman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Yeocomico River, VA
Posts: 1,604
Thanks: 2
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Sabreman will become famous soon enough Sabreman will become famous soon enough
Re: Bulkhead refinishing question

At the risk of writing something that you don't want to read, why not do it over? You did it once and don't like the result. So every time that you look at the bulkhead (i.e., every time you're on the boat), you'll hate it. Why not suck it up and do it right. You'll be a lot happier and that's what a boat's supposed to do for you.

While PolyShades is most definitely a compromise, all Minwax products should not be grouped with it. I use gallons of Minwax Wipe-on Poly and Helmsman Urethane and have never had an adhesion failure when using fresh product. Even old stuff is ok, but difficult to get a good flow. I use it on the furniture that I build and Victoria's interior. Good stuff that's difficult mess up.

FURNITURE

__________________
Sabre 38 "Victoria"
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #13  
Old 07-01-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,932
Thanks: 4
Thanked 34 Times in 34 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Tempest is on a distinguished road
Re: Bulkhead refinishing question

Mark, Was Victoria's interior wood that light in color originally, or did you strip and re-do? looks fantastic!
__________________
Tempest
Sabre 34
Morgan, NJ
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #14  
Old 07-01-2013
Sabreman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Yeocomico River, VA
Posts: 1,604
Thanks: 2
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Sabreman will become famous soon enough Sabreman will become famous soon enough
Re: Bulkhead refinishing question

In the 80's, Sabre didn't put a finish on their interiors. Some people would use Murphy's Oil Soap or any number of "oils" which tend to look nice for about 5 minutes then collect dirt, progressively darkening the wood. Teak is naturally oily and does not need to be oiled, especially interior wood. Fortunately, my PO was lazy and didn't do much to the interior, so I mostly had just dirt. I used a plastic pot scrubby with acetone to give the wood a good cleaning. Then I sanded lightly with 220 grit sandpaper and then applied 5 coats of satin Minwax Wipe-on Poly. For handholds, window frames, table, and other high wear objects, I used gloss. I only wipe with a damp cloth from time to time to clean up. The interior is all teak, so I broke up the job, working on the head, then V berth and hallway, main salon, and finally galley & chart table. I didn't move to the next section until I was done with the current one. The photo shows the natural color of teak which is not dark.

Admission of Guilt: I don't apply finish or sand between coats with the same care that I use for my furniture. It's a flippin' boat and even I have my limits for persnickety-ness. I take care and it shows but seriously, a boat is a lesson in entropy. It looks nice enough....and then I drop a winch handle, it bounces down the steps, off the corner of the chart table, and onto my high gloss floor. So much for perfection.
paul323 likes this.
__________________
Sabre 38 "Victoria"
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #15  
Old 07-01-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,932
Thanks: 4
Thanked 34 Times in 34 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Tempest is on a distinguished road
Re: Bulkhead refinishing question

Thanks for that info Sabreman. My PO used a min-wax cherry stain. (dark) I'd love to get it back to the natural color and lighten it up. I re-did the sole with Ultimate Sole several years ago, but the desire to sail and other projects have kept me from adressing the interior wood. I like the idea of doing it in smaller bits.

BTW, was it you that steered me to a card scraper? I bought a nice set w/handle from Woodcraft works great on the toe rails! Thanks.

Apologies to the PO for any drift.
__________________
Tempest
Sabre 34
Morgan, NJ
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #16  
Old 07-02-2013
poopdeckpappy's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 5,685
Thanks: 25
Thanked 39 Times in 33 Posts
Rep Power: 10
poopdeckpappy has a spectacular aura about poopdeckpappy has a spectacular aura about
Re: Bulkhead refinishing question

Try some Formsby's furniture refinish or Ploy remover ( test first ) either one should remove the finish without damaging the grain ( again test first )
__________________
1978 Tayana 37

Freedom comes when youíre ready to sail away. True freedom comes when you donít have to return


Cut off from the land that bore us, betrayed by the land we find, where the brightest have gone before us and the dullest remain behind, .......but stand to your glasses, steady,.......tis all we have left to prize, raise a cup to the dead already, hurrah for the next that dies
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to poopdeckpappy For This Useful Post:
Tempest (07-02-2013)
  #17  
Old 07-02-2013
Sabreman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Yeocomico River, VA
Posts: 1,604
Thanks: 2
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Sabreman will become famous soon enough Sabreman will become famous soon enough
Re: Bulkhead refinishing question

Quote:
My PO used a min-wax cherry stain. (dark) I'd love to get it back to the natural color and lighten it up.
I have no idea why people insist on staining wood, especially teak. The only reason to stain a wood is to make it look like another wood, to make a cheaper wood like an expensive one. But why would someone stain one of the most expensive woods to look like a much cheaper one? Regardless, I wouldn't even try to lighten it up. Once the stain is in the wood fibers, the only way to get it back to natural teak color is to sand it down. If you're dealing with a veneer which is most likely, then it's a non-starter.

Quote:
BTW, was it you that steered me to a card scraper?
Possibly. I'm a huge fan of scrapers. They're far faster and controllable than any sort of sander. I'm glad that it worked out for you.
__________________
Sabre 38 "Victoria"
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to Sabreman For This Useful Post:
Tempest (07-02-2013)
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Refinishing a pedestal SebastienL Gear & Maintenance 8 02-13-2012 02:43 PM
Pedestal Refinishing cghubbell Gear & Maintenance 2 05-10-2011 04:52 PM
Bulkhead question: Cat27 jaydducote Gear & Maintenance 7 06-19-2010 08:00 PM
Hull refinishing loomaz Gear & Maintenance 7 11-28-2006 12:17 PM
Refinishing brass twilk Gear & Maintenance 1 10-25-2003 02:08 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:16 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.