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Re: Should a Roller Furler be Hard?

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Dont over do it though or you could jam it

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Re: Should a Roller Furler be Hard?

+1 on SailKote.

Furling line lead issues are unlikely to have the symptoms described by the OP.

I'm thinking too much halyard tension.

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Re: Should a Roller Furler be Hard?

Should be eezy peezy to look up at the head of the jib to see if its halyard wrap or not, aye?
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Re: Should a Roller Furler be Hard?

Thanks everyone for your input and suggestions. I released some of the tension on the jib halyard (had it super tight from my old hank on days) and actually raised the sail a bit more up the foil closer to the mast top. This seems to have done the trick.

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Re: Should a Roller Furler be Hard?

Been reading through these and other threads and have a few things to check out. That said, I have an Endeavour 38 and it has a Harken Mk IV I think but the drum is the smaller one. I have not found any boats my size with one this small. When I bought the boat a couple years ago the surveyor noted this and when talking to him he said he would prefer the larger but would just use it. The furling line though small fills the drum with the 150% I have on it. Played with that some seeing if I could find the right amounts. The small line is tough on the hands when pulling it in. It unrolls fairly good but it any breeze at all it takes all you got to pull it in. If the wind picks up your not going to get it in unless on a winch which know should not have to do. You have to be very careful not to get the line jammed in the drum. Just wonder if it's too undersized for this boat and needs the next size. The PO may have just been trying to save so $$. Any thoughts appreciated

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Re: Should a Roller Furler be Hard?

The sudden difficulty in rolling up is not likely to be friction. I suspect that there is something wrapping or binding somewhere.
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Re: Should a Roller Furler be Hard?

If you suspect the jib halyard has wrapped around the forestay you should either drop the rig and inspect it or have someone go up and check its condition as the wire in the forestay can become unwound, severely weakening the rig.



In my case the damage was done by the previous owner. I sailed the boat for a couple of seasons like this, unaware there was a problem until I dropped the rig for an inspection. It was NOT a happy day.

This is why you DON'T force things. If something is binding figure out why.
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If you suspect the jib halyard has wrapped around the forestay you should either drop the rig and inspect it or have someone go up and check its condition as the wire in the forestay can become unwound, severely weakening the rig.



In my case the damage was done by the previous owner. I sailed the boat for a couple of seasons like this, unaware there was a problem until I dropped the rig for an inspection. It was NOT a happy day.

This is why you DON'T force things. If something is binding figure out why.
We had exactly the same issue on our Sadler 25. Being new to furling systems, we had no idea how they were supposed to work, up to the point where we were winching the furling line!
Needless to say, a new headstay, lubricated bearings, cannibalised top cap for the foil and adjusted deflector angle using a strop through the deflector fixed the problem.
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Re: Should a Roller Furler be Hard?

on furlers NEVER force anything especially those that arent properly installed or are old and tired...

forestay replacement for furlers, regardless of how well they work should be (to be safe) half that of hank on stays

so figure replace every 5-7 years or so.

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Re: Should a Roller Furler be Hard?

I had to replace the PO furling line...it was green and moldy and difficult to wrap. I went down in size to the next smaller diameter. As mentioned above, smaller lines can be harder on hands but head up to release some pressure and it works.


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