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abrahamx 07-12-2013 10:09 AM

Anyone make new teak pieces on deck
 
I am considering making my own teak or mahogany wood. I am not talking the towrail but all other wood on deck. Dont even know the names of the pieces????? Some rails and the molding around the hatch, etc....I can not find any info on anyone doing this. Knowing the names of the pieces would be a good start. We were thinking of cutting the shape out of solid lumber instead of trying to bend it. any suggestions or help of any sort appreciated.

deniseO30 07-12-2013 10:18 AM

Re: Anyone make new teak pieces on deck
 
I make all the wood parts for my boat Abe. Got pictures? Oh do I LOL
Made this new piece for the sliding hatch; Really pulled the look together.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps4426d43b.jpg about the time I got the I made the side rails for the drop boards too. And ran the drop boards through a planer.
This fits right on top the stove for the boat.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps12b8529f.jpg
Made from scrap.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps3c5b176d.jpg

kd3pc 07-12-2013 10:25 AM

Re: Anyone make new teak pieces on deck
 
I think you are saying you want to make your own parts, as few of us can make teak or mahogany. And unless you are an experienced wood/cabinet maker, you may be better off looking at other solutions. Many times there are reasons for the "bend" ie strength, fit and so on.

Working with teak is expensive, especially if you need "solid" long, wide or odd shapes....the wood is $$ and the tools needed to work with it and finish it are even more expensive. Teak is very difficult to work as compared to pine, oak and even mahogany that you mentioned. A lot of what you see is veneer.

I can turn a big, expensive pile of wood in to shavings and dust quite quickly. It is certainly worth your time to get a piece or two of scrap teak and see for yourself whether it meets your needs and at what cost.

Best of luck, you may be able to find a hobbyist woodworking store in your area that does classes...or visit a cabinet maker and talk with him.

The best place is a true boat yard or builder that still works his own wood as there is a HUGE difference in boat cabinet/wood work and residential/commercial cabinet/wood work. It will be tough to find one, as not many do their own work any longer, as the cost to do so is often prohibitive, so they contract out the woodwork to those shops with CNC routers and such. I worked with a builder in the northern neck, renowned for its boats, and watched the owner tell an apprentice that he did not even want to see the intricate rail piece he had in hand, until the apprentice had 20 hours work in smoothing, finishing the piece. It is that tough sometimes to get the look, feel and quality.

Sabreman 07-12-2013 10:26 AM

Re: Anyone make new teak pieces on deck
 
I think that you are referring to the handrails, eyebrows, coamings, and assorted trim. Any boat yard with a wood shop can easily fashion replacement pieces. None are difficult to fashion. Many handrails are fabricated straight and bent on site, they are not sawn with a curve. Virtually no woodworker will fashion a part without the old one to use as a template or without the boat available (at least, I wouldn't). Thus, this is something usually performed at a yard. On the other hand, if you can pull the parts from the boat, any local cabinet shop can make replacements, they just need to get the wood.

Since teak is expensive - about 20-30 bd ft, fashioning all new parts will be expensive. I use plantation teak as it's readily available, somewhat cheaper, and not prone to be Conflict Wood. So that begs the question of whether the existing parts can be cleaned up. Unless the teak has been scrubbed and sanded into oblivion, it can usually be cleaned up to look new.

rhr1956 07-12-2013 10:29 AM

Re: Anyone make new teak pieces on deck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abrahamx (Post 1058073)
I am considering making my own teak or mahogany wood. I am not talking the towrail but all other wood on deck. Dont even know the names of the pieces????? Some rails and the molding around the hatch, etc....I can not find any info on anyone doing this. Knowing the names of the pieces would be a good start. We were thinking of cutting the shape out of solid lumber instead of trying to bend it. any suggestions or help of any sort appreciated.

I made new handrails and companionway trim for my sled. Originally I was going to use teak but geez....EXPENSIVE! Another option to teak is called IPE but I have heard it is hell on equipment. The guy at the specialty wood store asked if I was going to varnish or leave natural. I told him varnish and with that he recommended mahogany. I took his advice and made the items. They have done very well in the Texas sun for three years. Last week I took them off and brought them to the house to sand and re-finish. In fact I just put the last coat of fresh varnish on them last night. I'll re-install them tonight. The pictures are three years old.
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...t/673c05b3.jpg
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...t/54a88fdb.jpg

Sabreman 07-12-2013 10:33 AM

Re: Anyone make new teak pieces on deck
 
Quote:

Teak is very difficult to work as compared to pine, oak and even mahogany that you mentioned.
I find teak to be average to work. Not especially hard or soft, but tools should be sharp. Care has to be taken to avoid inhaling dust which is oily and tends to be an irritant. Thus, I tend to avoid sanding, and then only sparingly. I usually use cabinet scrapers for all woodworking, sanding only at the last step. Finishing isn't difficult either, if properly prepped. I've had great success with urethanes, varnishes, and epoxies. Gluing isn't hard either, but use only Titebond III or epoxy.

deniseO30 07-12-2013 10:43 AM

Re: Anyone make new teak pieces on deck
 
Sabre, I've not had good luck with epoxy gluing teak or white oak. even with using acetone.

In my boat I've tried to break up the darkness of teak by making ash table and nav tops.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...Picture018.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...Picture017.jpg

JulieMor 07-12-2013 10:53 AM

Re: Anyone make new teak pieces on deck
 
If you're planning on making your own parts but don't have a table saw, router w/table, bandsaw and a bunch of other tools like that, you will be in for a ton of handwork. Only people like Roy Underhill take on these kinds of tasks without woodshop-type power tools.

If you decide to go ahead with making the parts yourself, buy some cheap pine and use that to hone your skills before making the replacement pieces in teak. You'll save yourself a lot of money and screwing up a piece won't be so traumatic.

deniseO30 07-12-2013 10:59 AM

Re: Anyone make new teak pieces on deck
 
Julie's right when you have all the shop tools and a son that loved building boats. this is a result.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...g/IMG_0001.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...g/IMG_0004.jpg

Now I have the shop and poke at things on my own. I like making things on the lathe, and restoring furniture, but my house needs more then I can ever catch up on.

deniseO30 07-12-2013 11:10 AM

Re: Anyone make new teak pieces on deck
 
Oh Abraham sorry we kinda took your thread and ran away with it!


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