I need some lifeline help - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 
  #1  
Old 07-25-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 569
Thanks: 30
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 9
abrahamx is on a distinguished road
I need some lifeline help

I want to get new lifelines and was going to take them off and measure them today but I am not sure what to do with the way they are now and the bow pulpit. The boat is a Tartan 30 and the life lines are led down to the deck at the bow. The Cat 27 next to me is the same way. If I run the line level to the attachment point on the pulpit the line turns about 15-20* towards the outside of the boat. The way the bow pulpit angles to the outside the life line would be 6-8 inches outside the toerail. Just wondering why the line would be ran down like that in the first place and if I should keep it that way. Personally I would like it to be level the length of the boat but to do that I would have to run the lifeline to the center of the bow pulpit (if I want to keep it inside the toerail "plane") or have it kick out, which seems to pull on the other stanchion. Neither one seems cool to me really. What to do? I just want to pull these and get the job done with but not sure how, exactally to proceed.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 07-26-2013
BubbleheadMd's Avatar
Chastened
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Edgewater/Annapolis
Posts: 2,756
Thanks: 0
Thanked 48 Times in 45 Posts
Rep Power: 5
BubbleheadMd will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Yahoo to BubbleheadMd
They run to the deck at the pulpit because the jib would have to pass over them. If the lifelines were at the top of the pulpit, the foot of the jib would be a mess.
__________________
S/V Old Shoes
1973 Pearson 30 #255
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 07-26-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 569
Thanks: 30
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 9
abrahamx is on a distinguished road
Re: I need some lifeline help

hmmmm, really. The boats I've sailed on the jib always skirted against the lifelines perfectly. I have not sailed this boat yet. Good thing I asked. I would have had them made the other way. Different on different boats I guess. Kind of sucks cuz it sure looks ugly.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 07-26-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 569
Thanks: 30
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 9
abrahamx is on a distinguished road
Re: I need some lifeline help

why when I look through pics online does it seem its 50/50 on leading the lifeline down or not?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 07-26-2013
jimgo's Avatar
Asleep at the wheel
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,908
Thanks: 71
Thanked 108 Times in 106 Posts
Rep Power: 3
jimgo is on a distinguished road
Re: I need some lifeline help

My boat doesn't have them lead down to the deck before the pulpit:

__________________
- Jim
Home: Western Philly 'burbs
1980 Allmand 31
1975 Albacore 15


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 07-26-2013
BubbleheadMd's Avatar
Chastened
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Edgewater/Annapolis
Posts: 2,756
Thanks: 0
Thanked 48 Times in 45 Posts
Rep Power: 5
BubbleheadMd will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Yahoo to BubbleheadMd
Re: I need some lifeline help

Let me amend my statement:

If your jib can be sheeted inboard of the lifelines, then running them down to the deck is not necessary, but the foot might still be mangled on beam and broad reaches if the sail is a "deck sweeper".

My big genoas sheet just outside of the lifelines, even when close-hauled. High-cut clews that are at lifeline level, also won't interfere.

Sorry, I was typing from my phone and wasn't very complete in my statement.
__________________
S/V Old Shoes
1973 Pearson 30 #255
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 07-26-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 569
Thanks: 30
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 9
abrahamx is on a distinguished road
Re: I need some lifeline help

Do they kick outside the toe rail? I really need to figure this out asap. I already pulled the lines and I would like to get it done. If I go up top they will be to short to lead them down later. No room for error here I just dont under stand why some have it one way and others have it the other way. Does not make the decision any easier not having sailed the boat yet.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 07-26-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 569
Thanks: 30
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 9
abrahamx is on a distinguished road
Re: I need some lifeline help

Right now there is just a standard jib on there but I do have a big 160 ish that he said has to be rolled up the other way on the furler so I have not put it up yet. also it runs a big a-sail. Sounding like I should leave them down????? That way I could always cut some off and change it later.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 07-26-2013
BubbleheadMd's Avatar
Chastened
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Edgewater/Annapolis
Posts: 2,756
Thanks: 0
Thanked 48 Times in 45 Posts
Rep Power: 5
BubbleheadMd will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Yahoo to BubbleheadMd
Re: I need some lifeline help

You don't need to sail the boat. Simply hoist the jib at the dock, sheet it in close, and see if it cuts across the path of the lifelines.

If it does, and the clew is low-cut, sweeping the deck, then the jib is going to interfere with the lifelines and you might want to run them to the deck.

Actually, if your main jib tracks are on the toe-rail outside of the shrouds, the jib is probably going to interfere (if it's a low-cut sail). If your tracks are inboard of the toe rail, or inboard of the shrouds, it shouldn't interfere.

My lifelines have adjustable ends, so I can set them on the deck or pulpit as I see fit. I have inboard AND outboard tracks. My smaller jibs sheet inboard of the lifelines.
__________________
S/V Old Shoes
1973 Pearson 30 #255
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 07-26-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 569
Thanks: 30
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 9
abrahamx is on a distinguished road
Re: I need some lifeline help

There is an inboard and outside the shrouds tracks. If they are run to the deck its probably for a reason I would guess.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lifeline upgrade Barquito Gear & Maintenance 5 08-02-2011 10:39 AM
Lifeline netting Taft Cruising and Sailing with Children 2 02-01-2011 06:43 AM
Lifeline measurements portlandsail Pacific Seacraft 0 01-07-2011 09:04 AM
Lifeline project jrd22 Gear & Maintenance 3 02-16-2010 02:32 PM
lifeline stanchions bernie-t Gear & Maintenance 4 02-03-2001 12:46 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:49 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012