how to adjust jib leads on toe rail - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 12 Old 08-05-2013 Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Washington DC
Posts: 88
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 4
 
how to adjust jib leads on toe rail

I sail a Mariner 28 and I have to put the jib leads on the toe rail in order to get the desired sail shape.

I use snatch blocks on the toe rail. This is a pain to adjust. I was in strong winds yesterday and really needed to adjust these block back further but there is no easy way to do this while the sail is under load.

Any one in a similar situation who got more creative and solved this issue?

1979 Mariner 28
Sailing out of Herrington Harbor North
Deale, MD
andrewoliv is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 12 Old 08-05-2013
Barquito
 
Barquito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 2,256
Thanks: 0
Thanked 27 Times in 27 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Re: how to adjust jib leads on toe rail

May not be efficient, but, you can tack, adjust the block, then tack back. Or, also not really easy, you could keep going, tie another sheet onto the headsail, put another block on further back, (grab the one from the windward rail), run it through, cleat it off, and finally take the original off. Final idea: If the jib does not hoist the full length of the forestay, you could change the lead angle by changing how high the jib is hoisted.

Bristol 27
Cirque
Barquito is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 12 Old 08-05-2013
4ksb expert.
 
SHNOOL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: East Stroudsburg, PA
Posts: 1,610
Thanks: 11
Thanked 77 Times in 73 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: how to adjust jib leads on toe rail

You could always use a barber hauler.

"Rum Line" a 1982, S2 7.9 - Production boat limit tester, blue-water bucket owner, with wine taste on a beer budget.
SHNOOL is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 12 Old 08-05-2013
Remember you're a womble
 
PaulinVictoria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sidney, BC
Posts: 2,114
Thanks: 10
Thanked 54 Times in 52 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Re: how to adjust jib leads on toe rail

Head up to relieve the pressure on the sheet, adjust, head back down. Or if there are a few of you onboard, you can step on the sheet ahead of the block whilst someone moves it depending on how heavy the wind is.

Orange Crush
1974 C&C27 MkII

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
PaulinVictoria is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 12 Old 08-06-2013 Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Washington DC
Posts: 88
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 4
 
how to adjust jib leads on toe rail

I have been heading upwind and adjusting. Was hoping there was some magical piece of hardware. A barber hauler may be an option.

1979 Mariner 28
Sailing out of Herrington Harbor North
Deale, MD
andrewoliv is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 12 Old 08-06-2013
Old as Dirt!
 
svHyLyte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa Bay Area
Posts: 2,935
Thanks: 15
Thanked 129 Times in 122 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Re: how to adjust jib leads on toe rail

Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewoliv View Post
I sail a Mariner 28 and I have to put the jib leads on the toe rail in order to get the desired sail shape.

I use snatch blocks on the toe rail. This is a pain to adjust. I was in strong winds yesterday and really needed to adjust these block back further but there is no easy way to do this while the sail is under load.

Any one in a similar situation who got more creative and solved this issue?
Take a short piece of 3/8" line, tie a rolling hitch around the sheet fwd of your block, and tie the line to your toe-rail with a slipped cow-hitch. Ease your sheet at the winch which will transfer the sheet load to the temporary tether and relocate your block. Slip the cow-hitch and you're done. The foregoing takes more time to describe than to do.

"It is not so much for its beauty that the sea makes a claim upon men's hearts, as for that subtle something, that quality of air, that emanation from the waves, that so wonderfully renews a weary spirit."
svHyLyte is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to svHyLyte For This Useful Post:
andrewoliv (08-06-2013)
post #7 of 12 Old 08-06-2013 Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Washington DC
Posts: 88
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 4
 
Re: how to adjust jib leads on toe rail

like that idea!!

1979 Mariner 28
Sailing out of Herrington Harbor North
Deale, MD
andrewoliv is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 12 Old 08-06-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 763
Thanks: 0
Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
Re: how to adjust jib leads on toe rail

I've actually been working on this exact problem because my 28' S2 works exactly the same way.
What I am making is a U-bolt in a piece of G10 made to slide along the toe rail and lock into the notches. The sliding surface will be teflon. The trick is making it "universal" for various types of toe rails. Not sure when it will be available for sale thru Gulf marine Technologies.
Frogwatch is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 12 Old 08-06-2013
I don't discuss my member
 
zz4gta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Posts: 2,530
Thanks: 0
Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Re: how to adjust jib leads on toe rail


Merit 25 # 764 "Audrey"
zz4gta is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 12 Old 08-06-2013 Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Washington DC
Posts: 88
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 4
 
Re: how to adjust jib leads on toe rail

The above drawing doesnt work. I have tracks installed there and they are too "inside" for the size jib I fly (135). I have had to remove the jib sheet from the track and attach to a snap block on the toe rail.

1979 Mariner 28
Sailing out of Herrington Harbor North
Deale, MD
andrewoliv is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Adjust rigging on AMF/Alcort Trac 14 jromeski Gear & Maintenance 3 02-03-2014 07:53 PM
Now Blow (how to adjust compass) Me Down HighFly_27 Gear & Maintenance 5 11-12-2012 08:42 AM
Rebedding Mahogany Toe Rail & Rub Rail Finallybuyingaboat Gear & Maintenance 3 03-15-2009 09:28 AM
AROUND JAPAN/UOZU, Toyama Prefecture: 300-year-old fishing festival changes its dates to adjust to the changing times (Asahi.com) NewsReader News Feeds 0 02-05-2007 09:15 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome