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Re: Self steering dilemma

Wasn't worrying about the AP rather rudder failure.when prepping for many races or joining fleet sails need to demonstrate that you have a emergency rudder.? Do you carry one. Thanks
Surprisingly find even fin keel boats track well enough if balanced to use brake and go below for short stints. Been trying to spec emergency rudder set up. May be worth the extra bucks for a hydrovane
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Re: Self steering dilemma

"Jeanne believes that the wireless remote for her Raymarine autopilot was the culprit. “If it’s not plugged in and it discharges, the head unit will go on standby
automatically,” she said."

That's scary! My remote controls just do nothing if the batteries go flat.
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need to demonstrate that you have a emergency rudder.? Do you carry one. Thanks
. Been trying to spec emergency rudder set. May be worth the extra bucks for a hydrovane
$3k for a spare rudder? Thats 6 EPIRBS; a full solar setup; or a few months cruising kitty; a years alcohol supply etc.

My 'spare' rudder is a drogue that I can winch either side of the boat to slightly change course.
With the very few boats that lose their rudder, it must be 1% of those that lose their self steering you are beginning to ponder infinitesimally small possibilities.

Just go cruising for a year or so and after that if you think you need it/one etc then pull into some port and order one in.

If I listened to everyone who said: "You can not go to sea without XXX" I would still be at home. I would never have left, nor would I still be able to afford all the junk 5 years later.

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Thanks Mark.still stuck with race requirements. Will think on jury rig something cheaper.
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still stuck with race requirements.
Races specify a second rudder? or a jury rig rudder? Have you got a link to the race specifications because they would be good to look at and see what people use.
I would doubt any race boat in the world has wind vane steering.
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Races specify a second rudder? or a jury rig rudder? Have you got a link to the race specifications because they would be good to look at and see what people use.
I would doubt any race boat in the world has wind vane steering.
I get the feeling he is confused between back up steering (emergency tiller) and back up rudder. Certainly I'm not aware of any regulation that requires a back up rudder as such.

Ref you point re spending $3000 to fit a vane gear I reckon I'm with you on that. To be frank I doubt I'd do it either but as I've already got the thing then I'll keep it.

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Re: Self steering dilemma

The monitor windvane has an option to fit an emergency rudder. It is called the MRUDD.
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Nope have emergency tiller. Actually took it out so I would know how to use it. Speaking of way to steer boat if rudder disabled. Agree no dedicated race boat would have a vane. More drag. Slow boat down. Believe vanes don't work well on racing multis or really fast sleds ddw.not enough apparent wind to function well or fast enough.won't develop enough force.
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Will try to find current m to b rules.
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Most new offshore sailors will be "over" canvased" in the belief it is faster and the "AP" can handle it.
^^^^^^^This is a very important lesson right here.
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