Originally Posted by JimsCAL
This sounds like a materials problem. The alloy they used must be too "soft". Lets hope Lewmar steps up and fixes this.
This was posted on the J105 forums by gbourne in regards to the same winches.
Originally Posted by gbourne
I have had 2 failures of the small pawl gear in the primary winches (Lewmar 44). Both winches failed in the same way: the 'pocket' that the pawl sits in wore out to the degree that it won't hold the pawl any longer. This was not due to lack of lube or service. Anyone else had this problem?
Thanks to Andrew for the info. The Lewmar part # for the 'std.' gear is 15000397. It should be available through any Lewmar dealer. My boat is a late 2000 launch & has not been abused at all. I replaced the part in one winch 2 years ago & now this one. Not what you would hope for in quality gear...
To complete the loop on this subject the upgraded parts are available from Florida Hydraulics & Rigging 1-800-718-1649
Hardened bronze version is #45000364
stainless version is #45003039
These are Lewmar part #'s.
The entire thread can be seen here:
J105 Worn Pawl Gears
It would appear that Lewmar has some upgraded parts and now offers sturdier parts for these winches? I however was not offered them nor made aware of them.
I was told, by Lewmar, this has not happened before and they alluded to these winches being "over loaded". If I am to believe Lewmar's sizing recommendations this would be impossible due to the sq ft sail size, LOA of the boat and the line feed angle. Their own sizing recommendations for these winches puts them smack dab in the lower middle of the range.. They are well within the safe sizing range according to Lemar's suggestions..
It is often frustrating to be told one thing then to go on the internet for more information only to find out what you were told may not have been the whole truth........
I suspect I know how a company like Harken would have handled a situation like this but each company does things differently... Do I feel this should have happened to these winches with the care and age, certainly not, but it is what it is. I simply suggest inspecting your Lewmar ST Ocean Series winches for the safety of you and your crew.....
It would have been much easier to swallow if they just said. "Well yes we have seen this occasionally but we consider it a wear item."
No problem I'll buy new parts, as I did. But to say this has not happened before and I then read that it has. A tad un-cool.....
FWIW I have no problem paying for the parts as the winches were technically out of warranty. I did not expect Lewmar to step up on this. Based on past experience I would guess Harken may have but all companies treat things differently.
What I do have an issue with is the potential for safety issues that can result from a situation like this. I would hope a company like Lewmar would at least post something to their site suggestion folks check pawl gear sockets occasionally and perhaps show them how.
This is why I made this post, because they have not, and they do not feel this is an issue
. Farr 40's with reported problems, multiple J015 owners and these winches make this a non-isolated case, IMHO, hence the warning post....