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Re: Power Cord/Adapter Issues

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My impression of "hard wired" must be slightly off. To me it means the conductors are connected via attachment with screws or wire nuts (in the case of home wiring) within a proper electrical box. How do you hard wire your boat to shore power?
Wire nuts are prohibted by ABYC.

Hard wiring to the boat means the boat end of the shore power cord - Appropriately sized ring terminals on each incoming conductor to a bus bar (covered) then from the bus bar to the panel, again with appropriately sized ring terminals.

Simple and effective You eliminate six connections (on a three wire conductor) and no longer have anything to come loose.
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Re: Power Cord/Adapter Issues

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Wire nuts are prohibted by ABYC.

Hard wiring to the boat means the boat end of the shore power cord - Appropriately sized ring terminals on each incoming conductor to a bus bar (covered) then from the bus bar to the panel, again with appropriately sized ring terminals.

Simple and effective You eliminate six connections (on a three wire conductor) and no longer have anything to come loose.
Thanks, I knew about wire nuts on boats. Where have you placed the buss bar?
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Thanks, I knew about wire nuts on boats. Where have you placed the buss bar?
The bus bar is inside a locker that opens from inside the cabin only and is within 12" of the clamshell which the cord passes through. From the bus bar to the panel is another 3'. All within ABYC standards.
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Re: Power Cord/Adapter Issues

When you leave dock to cruise, you unplug from the dock side and coil the cord and hang it on the boat somewhere, right?
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When you leave dock to cruise, you unplug from the dock side and coil the cord and hang it on the boat somewhere, right?
Correct.
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Re: Power Cord/Adapter Issues

There is an inherent design flaw in the 30 Amp female plug. The problem always occurs on the neutral side on the female end of the 30 amp cord set or the neutral side of the pedestal receptacle.

When plugging in the cord at the boat end the power should be off at the pedestal. The cord needs to be twisted clockwise and secured in position with the plastic threaded ring. The male end at the pedestal needs to be secured in a similar fashion. Then the power can be turned on. The overheating of these connections is caused by improper contact.

The receptacle blade connection really needs to be redesigned so that there is a positive click when twisted into place, however; I don't think that's ever going to happen. So in the mean time CD's suggestions are a very good solution.
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There is an inherent design flaw in the 30 Amp female plug. The problem always occurs on the neutral side on the female end of the 30 amp cord set or the neutral side of the pedestal receptacle.

When plugging in the cord at the boat end the power should be off at the pedestal. The cord needs to be twisted clockwise and secured in position with the plastic threaded ring. The male end at the pedestal needs to be secured in a similar fashion. Then the power can be turned on. The overheating of these connections is caused by improper contact.

The receptacle blade connection really needs to be redesigned so that there is a positive click when twisted into place, however; I don't think that's ever going to happen. So in the mean time CD's suggestions are a very good solution.
Glad you mentioned this. Few boaters turn off their AC mains or shore side breakers before connecting or disconnecting. This causes arcing as the plugs are jiggled back and forth and can send battery chargers and inverters into fits.
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Pry the boot (takes a little time) on the plugs/cords that are getting hot and they will have loose screws on the connections on the back of the plug. With the hot and cold temperatures and general use the screws will loosen, resistance increases. Tighten the screws once a year, problem solved.
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Re: Power Cord/Adapter Issues

The only marine "boots" I have seen are molded, one piece units that cannot be "pried " back. On the other hand I have seen any number of plugs from the local harware store attached to old power cords. This is a foolish thing to do.
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Re: Power Cord/Adapter Issues

After the second plug failure...I cut the burnt end off and pulled the cord into the boat right to the breaker panel and attached securely...cord not as long but a small price to pay for peace of mind...
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