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hriehl1 09-13-2013 04:00 PM

Add Roller Furling: Cost estimates
 
I have a 28 foot, 7,000 pound sloop with hanked-on foresails on a 34-foot forestay. I am seeking some advice on adding roller furling. We are very casual cruisers / daysailers we'd generally opt for a simple, lower cost but still capable solution over a performance high-end solution.

So, my questions.

1. Can a handy person install one's own roller furling gear? (The mast will be down anyway this winter.)

2. CDI's units appear to be lower cost, but simple and capable. Thoughts?

3. What might I expect to pay to have a 130 hank-on genoa re-cut for roller furling use?

Any other thoughts / advice welcomed.

zz4gta 09-13-2013 04:20 PM

Re: Add Roller Furling: Cost estimates
 
1. Yes, if you're good at following directions and are good with basic tools, allen keys, plyers, screwdrivers, etc. you should be fine.
2. They work just fine. I think everyone has a preference but if properly maintained (nothing on a boat is maintenance free) then all types should work.
3. Is it a complete recut or just putting on a luff tape? Adding foam? This could vary widely but go with a trusted local sailmaker who will come out on your boat and look at the sail after it's cut. You'll pay upfront, but customer support later on is very important.
My wild a$$ guess is around $4-500 without adding foam. 200 of that will probably be in labor for the luff tape.

Be absolutely positive you want roller furling. A 28 footer is pretty managable with a simple down haul on a 130. A 150-170 headsail becomes a bigger problem.

davidpm 09-13-2013 04:20 PM

Re: Add Roller Furling: Cost estimates
 
This one is reputed to be better than CDI but very inexpensive.
Alado Nautica USA Pricing Page

Harken is reputed to be the easiest to self install of the "real" furlers.

The CDI and Aladous do not have a top swivel which makes them much less expensive.
They work ok but you can get better tension and sail shape with a furler that has a top swivel.

In all cases you should check with your sailmaker to find out how much it will cost to remake your sail. It will certainly be a few hundred so you sail has to be worth putting that much into it.


Also if you head stay is not wonderful this is a good time to replace it as it will be hidden and harder to survey.

tommays 09-13-2013 04:21 PM

Re: Add Roller Furling: Cost estimates
 
The install is easy enough DEPENDING on how many things you have taken apart and put back together

It is fully possible to make catastrophic mistakes

IMHP you will be very disappointed PAYING for a sail recut to furl as there is lot of hardware were the tape belongs and sewing on the UV protection is costly to have done

If you could DIY it MIGHT make sense

The best bet is to seek out a used headsail

Faster 09-13-2013 04:24 PM

Re: Add Roller Furling: Cost estimates
 
Furlex provides a new forestay (and fittings?) with it's furlers.. usually a good idea to start with new anyway.

hriehl1 09-13-2013 04:55 PM

Re: Add Roller Furling: Cost estimates
 
It is my wife, not me, who wants the furling in the first place. She thinks I'm gonna get tossed right off the foredeck some day. I am perfectly happy with a hank-on solution for our 3 headsails; 150, 130 and 110. The downhaul is a good compromise... we have one on our little 17 foot daysailer and can dowse that jib in 5 seconds.

I just need some ammo that says roller furling is expensive, hard to install and breaks all the time!

tommays 09-13-2013 05:08 PM

Re: Add Roller Furling: Cost estimates
 
http://i565.photobucket.com/albums/s...pse4ee75f3.jpg

ALL of my previous boats had hank on headsails and boltrope mainsails

I also spend mucho time racing on other boats that require two men and a small boy to drag around all the 14 sails in the racing inventory


After 3 years with this setup you do NOT have enough money to make me go back to flaking sails ;)

overbored 09-13-2013 05:18 PM

Re: Add Roller Furling: Cost estimates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hriehl1 (Post 1088295)
It is my wife, not me, who wants the furling in the first place. She thinks I'm gonna get tossed right off the foredeck some day. I am perfectly happy with a hank-on solution for our 3 headsails; 150, 130 and 110. The downhaul is a good compromise... we have one on our little 17 foot daysailer and can dowse that jib in 5 seconds.

I just need some ammo that says roller furling is expensive, hard to install and breaks all the time!

Looking for reasons not to: it will be expensive when you figure you will have to change the luff tape and add cover material on all three jibs. unless the the 110 has battens and then you will not be able to use it unless you go to soft or vertical battens, even more money.

Faster 09-13-2013 05:48 PM

Re: Add Roller Furling: Cost estimates
 
Buying a furler and modifying the sails, even DIY when you can, will be the better part of a couple of boat bucks (ie $2K)

sailingfool 09-13-2013 06:12 PM

Re: Add Roller Furling: Cost estimates
 
The first question with converting a sail is whether it is full hoist. As the furler system shortens the hoist, a full hoist sail needs to have its luff shortened to start. If so, you should just plan on a new sail.

If not, adding a luff tape, a UV shield and a strap (to get full hoist for the furling unit) should run $3-500.

Once you get used to roller furling, it can be hard to imagine doing without...

If you do it yourself, you had better be very good friends with the people who will raising your mast.


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