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vtsailguy 09-25-2013 10:34 AM

Anchor Snubbers Redux
 
I saw in the archives a hotly contested thread about anchor snubbers:
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-m...snubber-6.html

No-one mentioned a simple chain hook that screws as a way to fix the snubber to the chain.
Cequent Quick-Link Chain Hook-Up 10000 lbs. 1/2 49135

Wouldn't one of these solve the hook-falling-off-chain problem?

TQA 09-26-2013 12:06 PM

Re: Anchor Snubbers Redux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vtsailguy (Post 1093529)
I saw in the archives a hotly contested thread about anchor snubbers:
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-m...snubber-6.html

No-one mentioned a simple chain hook that screws as a way to fix the snubber to the chain.
Cequent Quick-Link Chain Hook-Up 10000 lbs. 1/2 49135

Wouldn't one of these solve the hook-falling-off-chain problem?

Do not use one of those. Trying to remove one at 3 am in a squall when you are dragging will not be fun. Especially if it has been strained by a week at anchor with squalls coming through.

I am in my 11th year as a liveaboard and almost always anchor out. I have always used a simple hook and can not remember a single instance of it falling off. But when I NEED it off a 3 am off it comes.

pdqaltair 09-26-2013 12:27 PM

Re: Anchor Snubbers Redux
 
They have a real tendency to jam if they've loaded hard. You'll need 2 wrenches, which will making holding on the chain and boat difficult. Yes, I suppose it would come up through the roller, but still a pain. I do use them on a few things that I don't expect to take apart for years.

Cruisingdad 09-26-2013 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TQA (Post 1094176)
Do not use one of those. Trying to remove one at 3 am in a squall when you are dragging will not be fun. Especially if it has been strained by a week at anchor with squalls coming through.

I am in my 11th year as a liveaboard and almost always anchor out. I have always used a simple hook and can not remember a single instance of it falling off. But when I NEED it off a 3 am off it comes.

Totally agree and I use a hook too.

I keep my hook on by using a cheap elastic band. You could break it with your hand if you wanted. It holds no strain, only keeps the hook on in slack tide.

As TQA said, good anchoring isn't just about an anchor that sits well, but one that that can be weighed quickly in a blow. And I will tell you from experience, when that boat is pitching and the wind is howling, it is not easy and verges on dangerous.

Brian

Cruisingdad 09-26-2013 12:47 PM

Re: Anchor Snubbers Redux
 
Just so you know, my sunbber is a bit odd but I love it. I will try and get a pic of it up sometime.

It is basically a Y. Each part of the Y ties to a cleat. At the bottom of the Y is a chain hook. However, I also use a rubber snubber on the bottom part of the Y to really take the shock load out. We ride very comfortably.

Brian

tdw 09-26-2013 06:26 PM

Re: Anchor Snubbers Redux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruisingdad (Post 1094210)
Just so you know, my sunbber is a bit odd but I love it. I will try and get a pic of it up sometime.It is basically a Y. Each part of the Y ties to a cleat. At the bottom of the Y is a chain hook. However, I also use a rubber snubber on the bottom part of the Y to really take the shock load out. We ride very comfortably.Brian

I'll have you know young fella that posting pictures of your wonky snubber will be frowned upon by the Moderators.

Now we see why the once mighty USA is in such dire straits. Use a quality Made in the US elastic band you cheapskate.

We use one of these. Can fall off when first setting due to gravity and lack of tension but that is simply a matter of getting the technique right and/or blaming your other half. Has never let us down under load but is easy to remove. I think CD and us use same setup. Essentially a Y shape from cleats either side of the bow rather than through the anchor roller. Only negative with that is possible noise and chafe so you need to have some kind of cover where line passes over the side(s).

http://www.downwindmarine.com/images/P/892237.jpg


Previous boat we had one of these ..... Making sure size matches chain is very important but they work well.

http://www.chainsropesandanchors.co....%20400x215.jpg

vtsailguy's method scares the pants off me quite frankly. You most need your snubber as the wind pipes up. Whatever method you use it is far better to have the thing fall off occasionally in light winds than jam solid when you are in an "oh crikey" situation.

vtsailguy 09-26-2013 08:38 PM

Re: Anchor Snubbers Redux
 
I completely did not even think about problems getting it off. Totally agree with the posts here. I'll ponder some other technique.

I use hooks, but with my bow set up, it's difficult to keep tension on so it stays hooked. I'll try the rubber band trick.

JonEisberg 09-26-2013 11:34 PM

Re: Anchor Snubbers Redux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vtsailguy (Post 1094482)

I use hooks, but with my bow set up, it's difficult to keep tension on so it stays hooked. I'll try the rubber band trick.

You might consider one of these chain hooks from Wichard, with a spring-loaded locking pin...

They're a bit pricey, but very slick, well worth it IMHO.... And, they can be very useful if trying to set a Bahamian moor by laying a snatch block for the secondary rode near the bottom...

http://www.all4boat.com/fotografie/foto-1077-640.jpg

downeast450 09-27-2013 07:55 AM

Re: Anchor Snubbers Redux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tdw (Post 1094418)
I'll have you know young fella that posting pictures of your wonky snubber will be frowned upon by the Moderators.

Now we see why the once mighty USA is in such dire straits. Use a quality Made in the US elastic band you cheapskate.

We use one of these. Can fall off when first setting due to gravity and lack of tension but that is simply a matter of getting the technique right and/or blaming your other half. Has never let us down under load but is easy to remove. I think CD and us use same setup. Essentially a Y shape from cleats either side of the bow rather than through the anchor roller. Only negative with that is possible noise and chafe so you need to have some kind of cover where line passes over the side(s).

http://www.downwindmarine.com/images/P/892237.jpg


Me, too! It works very well and allows for some useful adjustments.

Down

jimjazzdad 09-27-2013 10:09 AM

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The coolest way to hook a snubber line to an anchor chain is using a Dyneema soft shackle (thanks to Evans Starzinger for the idea and photo!). I have tried it and will not use any other way now.


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