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Reefing trouble

Today was the first time I attempted to reef the mainsail. I have a two line reefing system, and the lines go through the boom. The sail has 2 reefs.
I tried to do the first reef, and I ended up pulling the entire line out of the boom.(the front line that connects to the luff of the sail, goes through the boom, and aft to the cockpit) Apparently the knot came loose off of the cringle and it shook back and forth in the very strong winds.
So I resorted to reef number 2 and all went well.

I arrived back at my slip, pulled out the inner block, eventually rethreaded the line, but not I'm entirely sure it's right, because the line is kind of stuck now, hard to pull.

How is this really fixed, the boom is riveted together. Does it need to be taken completely apart? Has this ever happened to anyone? Any advice on how to thread it properly?
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Re: Reefing trouble

When you say 2 line, is that 2 lines per reef, for a total of 4?

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A photo would help..

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Re: Reefing trouble

Sounds like you're talking about the first reef tack line if it's the luff, unless as Mark says you have two lines total, ie single line reefing for each reef. That's the only scenario that requires the "tack" line go through the boom.

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Yes a total of 4 lines, 2 per reef, I'm gonna look for some pics
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sorry i dont have any specific pictures, this is the best i have
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this is before the reef lines were attached to the leach of the sail.
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Re: Reefing trouble

I'd say the reef line should be run up thru the reef cringle, down to the aftmost becket on the underside of the boom (btw, they both look a bit too far forward on the from this angle) If the tack lines are long enough you can similarly double those as well - or replace them with tack hooks.

The second reef the same, but to the forward becket.

With the lines tied off on the boom (a tight bowline) it's far less likely to get shaken loose, and you get a doubling (albeit high friction) of power on the reef line.

If the line feels difficult to pull now that it's been re-run, it's likely you've wrapped it around another or have some other un-fair lead going on in there. (your outhaul is likely a multipart tackle internal to the boom.. easy to snag a part of that)

Maybe pull it back out and use a plumbing snake to pull the line through the boom cleanly...

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Re: Reefing trouble

Sounds like the newly reeved line for your first reef is crossed somehow inside the boom. It could be twisted around itself or around the other reefing line. The best fix will probably be to pull it out and try again. To keep it clear of the second reefing line you may need to pull the second one tight inside the boom so it stays "up" and slide the first reefing line inside along the bottom of the boom. You don't mention how you re-reeved the reefing line the first time. There are a variety of ways that can work. A plumber's snake can be quick and definitive, because you know where each end goes: you put it through with the line attached and fish it out through the sheave you want it to go through. Tying a light messenger line to an iron nut, slipping that in and then drawing it along with a STRONG magnet might also work. Being conscious of the layout inside the boom and exactly where each line goes will help keep things from getting twisted a second time.
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