Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket?? - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree3Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10-15-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 205
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 3
i_amcdn is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to i_amcdn Send a message via MSN to i_amcdn Send a message via Yahoo to i_amcdn
Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??

This was my first summer with my Edel and its Honda 8HP hanging off a bracket. I had to bust a gut every time that I tried to raise the motor. Pushing the locking lever towards the motor while squeezing through the small back stay triangle and simultaneously trying to lift the motor straight up was a grind.

This past weekend I pulled the boat and removed the outboard for winter storage. As can be seen in the pictures I can compress the springs on the lift bracket with my finger tips.

I was thinking of replacing the entire bracket in the spring BUT:
1. It will be a major effort to get into the hidden part of the stern to remove the 4 nuts that are buried inside the stern.
2. A new bracket will be about $350-$400 which would buy an incredible amount of 100% proof Mt Gay Eclipse Black.

My questions are:
1. Is it possible to simply replace the two springs?
2. If so does anyone recognize the logo that is stamped into the support bracket? I would like to reach out to them first for replacements.

Thanks
Attached Thumbnails
Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??-motor-lift-logo-2.jpg   Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??-motor-lift-loose-spring.jpg   Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??-motor-lift-springs.jpg   Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??-motor-lift-side-view.jpg   Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??-motor-lift-logo.jpg  

__________________

1981 Edel 665
Currently on the hard in downtown Toronto.
Sailing 2014 has now closed shop.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by i_amcdn; 10-15-2013 at 01:28 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 10-15-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 236
Thanks: 1
Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts
Rep Power: 7
tschmidty is on a distinguished road
Re: Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??

Looks a lot like the TH Marine design so you might be able to reach out to them. Their 20HP bracket is only $146 on Amazon though.

Kicker Outboard Motor Brackets, Outboard Motor Brackets | T-H Marine
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 10-15-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 236
Thanks: 1
Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts
Rep Power: 7
tschmidty is on a distinguished road
Re: Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??

The other thing is you could look at a block and tackle arrangement off the stern rail to help lift.
white74 likes this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 10-16-2013
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 2,067
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Barquito is on a distinguished road
Re: Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??

I'm wondering if the spring just isn't pre-tensioned enough.
__________________
Bristol 27
Cirque
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 03-12-2014
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 205
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 3
i_amcdn is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to i_amcdn Send a message via MSN to i_amcdn Send a message via Yahoo to i_amcdn
Re: Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??

A POX on all lawyers....

I am still waiting to hear back from TH Marine, as I believe that they have the type of springs I need, but in the meantime here is the reply from Garelick. (my current springs are only under tension when the bracket is lowered and yes I understand that fresh springs may be a more sprung.)

"For safety and liability reasons we DO NOT sell parts or springs for any Garelick Auxiliary Motor Brackets to outside parties. The disassembly and reassembly of these products requires a special jig and compression system to safely remove and reinstall the springs. These springs are under high tension and could cause severe injury if incorrectly handled. The only parts for these products that can be safely installed by a customer are limited to the tension knobs, the mounting board that holds the outboard motor and the safety cable. "
__________________

1981 Edel 665
Currently on the hard in downtown Toronto.
Sailing 2014 has now closed shop.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 03-12-2014
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 205
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 3
i_amcdn is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to i_amcdn Send a message via MSN to i_amcdn Send a message via Yahoo to i_amcdn
Re: Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??

Further more I am Canadian...If I hurt myself doing something that you told me not to do, my first reaction is not to go crying to a lawyer. It will be to go get myself fixed up with our free medical care.
FR*&^KING lawyers are taking away all the fun.
__________________

1981 Edel 665
Currently on the hard in downtown Toronto.
Sailing 2014 has now closed shop.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 03-12-2014
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 205
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 3
i_amcdn is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to i_amcdn Send a message via MSN to i_amcdn Send a message via Yahoo to i_amcdn
Re: Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??

Quote:
Originally Posted by tschmidty View Post
Looks a lot like the TH Marine design so you might be able to reach out to them. Their 20HP bracket is only $146 on Amazon though.

Kicker Outboard Motor Brackets, Outboard Motor Brackets | T-H Marine
To get to the inside nuts that hold it on will involve cutting access holes. I have no idea how they got the original bracket installed other than attaching it before the deck was dropped in place.
__________________

1981 Edel 665
Currently on the hard in downtown Toronto.
Sailing 2014 has now closed shop.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 03-12-2014
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: New Orleans Louisiana
Posts: 2,067
Thanks: 6
Thanked 54 Times in 51 Posts
Rep Power: 3
Stumble is on a distinguished road
Re: Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??

Those springs when new are under a lot of tension... It might be possible to build a jib to put it all together, but it isn't really practical. Having disassembled a few and put them back together at a yard with a custom jig... It really is easier to just replace them. And the modern ones are even worse, they are using even higher spring tensions to compensate for the heavier four strokes...

Just a FYI the modern ones are carrying almost 1000 foot pounds of torque in the springs. It isn't an easy job. The older ones are in the 500ft-lbs range.
__________________
Greg Rubin
Attorney
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 03-13-2014
christian.hess's Avatar
"Nubile Southern Sailor"
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Columbus, Ga
Posts: 4,313
Thanks: 160
Thanked 172 Times in 168 Posts
Rep Power: 2
christian.hess is on a distinguished road
Re: Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??

these are mine:


do we have the same ones OP?

I the one that is up has a good spring, the one down has very little strength

I too need to replace mine...

they are hooked up in tandem as my boat is pretty big for one liittle bracket

looking at mine I dont see where its soooooo hard to replace., its like compressing a shock...you sompress it...pop out bolt install new spring and snap off

am I missiing something here?

I need to find a new spring for mine or make one which might be tough...

anywhoo
__________________
Islander 36 now FOR SALE!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 03-13-2014
christian.hess's Avatar
"Nubile Southern Sailor"
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Columbus, Ga
Posts: 4,313
Thanks: 160
Thanked 172 Times in 168 Posts
Rep Power: 2
christian.hess is on a distinguished road
Re: Replace springs on outboard lifting bracket??

same?

__________________
Islander 36 now FOR SALE!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Outboard motor bracket HARDWORK Gear & Maintenance 10 04-09-2013 03:20 PM
outboard bracket for 30' champlain94 Alberg 0 07-28-2012 04:25 PM
Another Outboard bracket question... LandLocked66c Gear & Maintenance 6 07-19-2011 09:17 PM
Outboard Bracket Issue YeahJohn Gear & Maintenance 7 12-02-2010 05:03 PM
Outboard lifting is killing me! gwp Gear & Maintenance 8 06-04-2003 06:44 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:55 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.