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Norseman terminal threads?

Hi guys, been checking my rigging lately(new to me boat)

I have a newer forestay with upper and lower norseman connection...upper is good just some light surface rust...

however my lower norseman which is a threaded stud has more threads exposed...

I have not taken it apart for fear of not being able to reinstall without a new cone which I cannot source quickly...

is it normal for 4-5 threads to be exposed on the male part of the fitting and is it possible to dissassemble check condition and rethread all the way in without damage

according to navtec norseman you can do this...I have loctite, lube and everything else but the cone needed.

sorry I do not have a pic...yet. I also have norsemans on my uppers and intermediate stays...they however are completely seated.

I have researched and stalok can have 2-3 threads showing and that is fine, however every where I search about norseman I cant find a definitive answer on wether threads showing is ok.

I think maybe its that the rigger or p.owner did not cut the wire correctly and left too long over the cone...not allowing the male thread to seat completely but enough to work so far.

thoughts?

thanks in advance
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Re: Norseman terminal threads?

Its probably fine for now. but you may want to take it apart just to check when ever you have a chance. I have taken apart a norseman fitting that had extra threads showing, only to discover that the cone was way too far down the wire and that the extra wire at the top was all bound up preventing it from tightening fully.
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Re: Norseman terminal threads?

thats my fear...Im ordering some other stays but shipping is killer down here to el salvador

my other fear is maybe the rigger seized the threads and the male part can fully seat.

as I understand however norsemans you can check anytime right?

thanks much!
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Re: Norseman terminal threads?

are some threads ok on norsemans or none at all? I have come to understand that on the similar stay loks that 2 or 3 threads is ok...
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Re: Norseman terminal threads?

strombay what did you do in your case? did you cut the extra wire and rethreaded or changed cones and wire?

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Re: Norseman terminal threads?

I believe you can check them any time http://www.americanriggingsupply.com...c_Norseman.pdf

In my case I was replacing a lower shroud on a mizzen that had a bent lower stud. I was doing work for some one else. Who ever installed the rig previously had done a bad job and a lot of the shrouds were either too long or too short. The incorrectly installed fitting was on the upper end. The owner of the boat opted to simply switch out the whole wire for new as I was already replacing a bunch of others at that time. Had we kept the wire and it was the right length, I would have cut away the extra at the top and replaced the cone.
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Re: Norseman terminal threads?

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are some threads ok on norsemans or none at all? I have come to understand that on the similar stay loks that 2 or 3 threads is ok...
I dont know for sure, but if it looks different from the others I would check it.
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Re: Norseman terminal threads?

thanks that sounds only sensible...order new cones and redo at least the lower terminal

much appreciated

anybody else with similar issues Id be happy to hear from you

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Re: Norseman terminal threads?

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I believe you can check them any time http://www.americanriggingsupply.com...c_Norseman.pdf

checked them as well as most rigging places and they all show how to assemble them, none show how they look on the exterrior when fully seated or finally torqued down...I guess thats my issue

I guess in reality I know the answer and that is that the threaded parts should be completely seated...so It looks like I have to at least take it apart to inspect

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Re: Norseman terminal threads?

I believe you can inspect them with out replacing the cone. As far as I understand you only need a new cone if you are reusing the fitting on a different piece of wire.
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