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lawsonmitchell 10-21-2013 12:56 PM

1990s boom furling mains
 
A boat I want to look at has boom furling. How functional were those systems in the early 90s. And if crappy, I'm thinking it can't be hard to switch it to slab reefing. Link to boat attached:

1991 Maestro 35 Sloop Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Thanks,
Lawson

Faster 10-21-2013 01:29 PM

Re: 1990s boom furling mains
 
Jonmeri is a quality builder.. Pretty boat. Under 300 hours on a 22 year old boat is a bit hard to believe, but....? Repower?

Fairly high asking price for that vintage, but it's probably relatively unique, though that can go either way. I suspect a serious offer considerably lower would be looked at, esp if the listing is getting old...

Hard to say about the furler.. conceptually inboom furling makes more sense than in mast.. check the brand and do some more research.

Keep us posted!

tdw 10-21-2013 07:15 PM

Re: 1990s boom furling mains
 
Looking at the pics, the furler looks to be an around the boom furler not in boom. If so get rid of the thing. They are without redeeming feature.

However, it is very easy to fix. I had a boat many moons ago with around boom furling and all that was required was to lock the furler in place and have the main re jigged for slab reefing. Unlike in mast furlers, around boom furled mainsail pretty much uses a standard size and cut of main.

Faster 10-21-2013 07:32 PM

Re: 1990s boom furling mains
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tdw (Post 1108639)
Looking at the pics, the furler looks to be an around the boom furler not in boom. If so get rid of the thing. They are without redeeming feature.

However, it is very easy to fix. I had a boat many moons ago with around boom furling and all that was required was to lock the furler in place and have the main re jigged for slab reefing. Unlike in mast furlers, around boom furled mainsail pretty much uses a standard size and cut of main.

Tough to say, under the cover and all, but if that's the case, then I'd agree: immobilize the boom roller and rig the main for standard slab/jiffy reefing and off you go.

Hard to believe that someone would have installed rolling boom furling still in the '90s....:confused:

CaptainForce 10-21-2013 07:44 PM

Re: 1990s boom furling mains
 
I'm surprised that they were still making them in the 90's. I've had 1973 boats with this feature since 1973, but I never use this reefing system. You likely have no need to "immobilize" anything. Just set up the slab reefing.

tdw 10-21-2013 09:50 PM

Re: 1990s boom furling mains
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainForce (Post 1108658)
I'm surprised that they were still making them in the 90's. I've had 1973 boats with this feature since 1973, but I never use this reefing system. You likely have no need to "immobilize" anything. Just set up the slab reefing.

You are probably correct there. I'm also a bit surprised they were still being used in the 1990's. I'm just going on the visuals and that boom doesn't look big enough to house a mainsail inside.

You can achieve this without immobilizing but in the past I've found it preferable to be able to lock the boom. In fact if memory serves I think I installed a completely new boom - mast fitting. Probably not necessary except, and again from somewhat hazy memory, the original was badly worn and looking set to fail.

jimrafford 10-21-2013 10:21 PM

Re: 1990s boom furling mains
 
A little hard to see in photo but the mast track, stops and vang looks like a Sailtainer in boom furler to me. If so I have one and it is extremely well made. Was probably the best made at the time. Works very well w/ endless reefing. Main can be reefed on the run w/ very little effort.
Jim

overbored 10-22-2013 12:26 AM

Re: 1990s boom furling mains
 
Could be Bamar Sailtainer. it was a good for the day system. the sail does suffer from being a bit flat but much better then in mast sails. the boom had to be at the exact angle ( 90 degrees ) to the mast to furl correctly. or it would bind up and stop the motor.

CaptainForce 10-22-2013 08:01 AM

Re: 1990s boom furling mains
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tdw (Post 1108730)
............. I installed a completely new boom - mast fitting...............

My 70's reefing system doesn't involve any aspect of the gooseneck. The boom doesn't rotate freely, but only with the application of a crank handle to move a pinion gear that rotates the boom and the mainsail then wraps around the outside of the boom. As I said, I don't use this system and I don't favor the resulting sail shape. If the 90's version topic of this post is an inside the boom furling, it's a far different mechanism and likely a great improvement.

tdw 10-22-2013 06:52 PM

Re: 1990s boom furling mains
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainForce (Post 1108857)
My 70's reefing system doesn't involve any aspect of the gooseneck. The boom doesn't rotate freely, but only with the application of a crank handle to move a pinion gear that rotates the boom and the mainsail then wraps around the outside of the boom. As I said, I don't use this system and I don't favor the resulting sail shape. If the 90's version topic of this post is an inside the boom furling, it's a far different mechanism and likely a great improvement.


Aha ... mine was obviously more of an old clunker than yours. Presuming it went onto the boat when she was built then it was more 60s than 70s. Had no ratchet or gears. From memory cos I only used the accursed thing on a couple of occasions before I rid myself of it, it spun freely. The gooseneck fitting itself was showing signs of wear and tear so I simply took the opportunity to replace it.


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