How do I tell if I have gelcoat or paint - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By Barquito
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10-31-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 602
Thanks: 32
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 9
abrahamx is on a distinguished road
How do I tell if I have gelcoat or paint

I think I have paint because I remember the po saying he had it painted but not totally sure what he was talking about. He was quite old and hard to understand. Anyway i think its painted but dont know for sure. Is there a way I can figure this out and if it is paint what type it is? The paint looks great to me anyway. There are some scratches but nothing major. It has a nice shine to it and I am looking into is so I can properly maintain it. I would like to wax etc... no that its on the hard for winter. My other question is on durability. He owned the boat for six years and I bought it this spring. So if he had it painted it would be 5-7 years old and I read something about paint only lasting 10 years. Whats the cost of painting the topsides? I'm a good painter and could maybe do it myself but dont have gear or facility. Its a tartan 30
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 10-31-2013
jzk's Avatar
jzk jzk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,640
Thanks: 1
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 7
jzk is on a distinguished road
Re: How do I tell if I have gelcoat or paint

Are you on Lake Michigan? I saw some guys at strictly sail that seem to do a nice job, and they charge $100/ft. for topsides. I think they were somewhere in michigan on Lake Michigan. Do you want their contact info?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 10-31-2013
Delta-T's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 409
Thanks: 22
Thanked 28 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 1
Delta-T is on a distinguished road
Re: How do I tell if I have gelcoat or paint

How old is your boat? What color is the boot? Gel coat is thick, like 3/16". If painted it would be something like AllGrip... AwlGrip

I don't recommend you try this yourself.
__________________
Delta-T
1969 Bristol 32 Keel/CB Hull 26
Narragansett Bay RI USA
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 10-31-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 602
Thanks: 32
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 9
abrahamx is on a distinguished road
Re: How do I tell if I have gelcoat or paint

Na, I'm on lake st clair and that is WAY out of my budget. I was just trying to see how long it would last and what kind of paint it is or if its gelcoat, and how to maintain it. And price, thanks on that one.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 10-31-2013
jzk's Avatar
jzk jzk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,640
Thanks: 1
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 7
jzk is on a distinguished road
Re: How do I tell if I have gelcoat or paint

Is the finish fading and getting chaulky? If not, I bet you have paint. Paint holds up better to the sunlight, but gelcoat might be a little more durable to bumps, etc.

Why do you feel the need to repaint? Is it looking bad? If you are good at painting, there are plenty of youtube videos that tell you how to roll on two part poly paints and then gently smooth it with a good brush. It is very doable if you take your time, do the prep right, etc. The finish will smooth out and the brush marks will disappear.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 10-31-2013
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,925
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 7
Barquito is on a distinguished road
Re: How do I tell if I have gelcoat or paint

Agree. If it doesn't look bad, don't bother. We are just talking cosmetics here. If you do the whole thing yourself you should be able to keep it under maybe $800 (marine paint is stupid expensive). I used Interlux Perfection which a two part paint that is supposed to be easier to apply than Awlgrip. It is still very difficult to get the right conditions outdoors (no wind, dry-ish air). I did a previous boat in Interlux Topsides which is a one part paint. I think it looks just as good, but was way less problematic to apply. Topsides probably isn't as durable as perfection. Dark colors will show errors much more than light colors. There, that is all I know about paint.

It is fun to change how the boat looks:


mattt likes this.
__________________
Bristol 27
Cirque

Last edited by Barquito; 10-31-2013 at 09:40 PM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 11-01-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 602
Thanks: 32
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 9
abrahamx is on a distinguished road
Re: How do I tell if I have gelcoat or paint

Its a blue hull very similar to the above pic. As stated I am trying to figure out what I have so I can properly maintain it. I would like to wax, etc... but have read that with certain paints I should not use wax, etc... I am merely trying to clean and shine it up a little.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 11-01-2013
SHNOOL's Avatar
Stupor-user.
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: East Stroudsburg, PA
Posts: 973
Thanks: 6
Thanked 30 Times in 27 Posts
Rep Power: 8
SHNOOL is on a distinguished road
Re: How do I tell if I have gelcoat or paint

Most paints you should NOT use wax.
to tell is easy, scatch it in an obscure spot, and see if you can remove it. It'd require a deep scratch to remove gelcoat.

The perfection and awlgrip are 2 part epoxies, there are also 1 part epoxies (really enamel)... Brightsides is an example. Compounding/buffing is something you should NOT do to paints.... Waxing definitely NOT to be done to enamels (it'll remove the gloss portion of the paint)... Enamels won't last but 2-3 years (but is easy to add a coat to).

I used 4 quarts of red for my 25 footer. The stuff runs about $66 a quart. If you decide to do this yourself, and are just doing another layer of the same color.... it's clean, scuff, and paint (look up how to roll and tip). If you are changing colors for some reason, consider primer as well.

1 part epoxies are easier to do than 2 part ones, and the 2 part ones require LOTS of ventilation (outside)... also temperatures while doing it matter greatly. Every speck of dust gets caught in the paint, so it should be a non-windy outdoor day or a vacuumed indoor facility. My boat wasn't worth the money to pay someone to do it for me... and I didn't want to deal with the toxicity or cost of 2 part epoxies... so mine got enamel.. .but then my boat's on a trailer all winter, and inside at my house.
__________________
Sailing a Capri 25, cheap, fast, trailerable, and paid for... Catalina Mainsheet Capri 25 Tech editor that's large (I mean at large).
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why paint instead of gelcoat? aaronwindward Gear & Maintenance 116 4 Weeks Ago 04:28 PM
Paint gelcoat davidpm Gear & Maintenance 27 01-16-2013 01:39 AM
Gelcoat or Topsides paint? leogallant Gear & Maintenance 1 09-14-2012 09:41 AM
Is this paint or gelcoat? bamabratsche Gear & Maintenance 8 02-20-2012 05:37 PM
Gelcoat? Paint? dmcleaner General Discussion (sailing related) 8 06-15-2010 11:24 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:11 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.