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Re: I bought my first boat.. now i have a million question

Classic case of "The happiest days of a sailors life is the day he buys his boat and the day he sells his boat"

The prefious owner probably got the better end of the deal.
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Re: I bought my first boat.. now i have a million question

I have just looked at all the Irwin Citation 30's on Yachtworld. I have not seen one with a "2 x 8" used for chainplate attachment. Would like to see a pic as others have mentioned. As some other threads on Sailnet have shown Irwin's chainplate attachments have been suspect on other models as well.

GitRot doesn't repair anything structural - it just petrifies the rot. I also agree it should be your first priority before sailing to repair the chainplate attachment properly.
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Re: I bought my first boat.. now i have a million question

Congrats on the new boat!

When got my boat I felt pressured to upgrade my boat to the currently popular rigging setup of roller furling, all lines led to cockpit, etc. only to later learn that I actually prefer sailing with the simpler rig my boat already had.

Don't feel pressured to upgrade/modify the rigging until all of the safety maintenance issues are fixed, you have money to burn, and have sailed on boats rigged different ways.
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I don't have any pictures of the section but I will be sure to get some as well as have someone look at it to find what repairs are going to take
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Re: I bought my first boat.. now i have a million question

A minor point; with 2 posts, Sailnet is not going to permit Mookie to post pictures. We will have to get the picture through accurate verbal descriptions and good pointed questioning.

Welcome to boasting and Sailnet. Participating in repairing your boat either as a helper or a primary repairer is a great way of learning your boat. Ask questions and solicit help but don't feel stymied by a large volume of seemingly contradictory responses. Sometimes you have to get a feeling about what is correct and doable and just get started!

Good luck and welcome.

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Re: I bought my first boat.. now i have a million question

I had a chain plate break in half, while sailing an older Catalina 27, one day. Sounded like a shotgun going off nearby. Luckily the winds weren't too heavy. As soon as I realized what happened, I was able to turn her onto the other tack, taking the pressure off of the rigging on the broken side. Substituted a halyard as a temporary stay, doused all sails and limped home on the Atomic 4 motor.

Even though I had a professional survey, the problem went unnoticed until it broke.

The chain plate had deteriorated right where it touched the decking. I replaced it and was back sailing in a week or so. Now that I think back on it..I don't remember if I replaced BOTH chain-plates (on either side) or not. If I didn't, I certainly should have. It was 30 years ago, so my memory is long gone on the details, but I remember that sound!

Not a condition you want to put yourself in. Get a pro to look at the problem and do not sail until you do! regards, Rich
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Re: I bought my first boat.. now i have a million question

If it was 30 years ago the Catalina 27 was not more than 12 years old.

The Catalina 27 came to life in 1971

12 years is a very short life for a chainplate.
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Re: I bought my first boat.. now i have a million question

You might be more correct than I on the exact number of years. As I recall, it was 10 years old when I bought it. 30 years ago may have only been been 20/25 years ago.

Loved that boat and, even now, wish I had never sold it. I had too much to do at the office to use it enough..... at the time. Darn!
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p.s. Hmm...let's see 1971 to 2013 is 42 years... it might have been nearly 30 years ago???
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Re: I bought my first boat.. now i have a million question

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A minor point; with 2 posts, Sailnet is not going to permit Mookie to post pictures. We will have to get the picture through accurate verbal descriptions and good pointed questioning.
Good point, Tod - but many people work around it by putting the pictures up on another site, typically a free photo hosting service, and posting a link.
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Re: I bought my first boat.. now i have a million question

Ditto on holding off on upgrades for now.

There are two things every sailor has to learn:
1. how to sail well
2. how to manage the maintenance of your vessel

Don't discount the importance of boat "management". That old 30 footer has some more surprises for you besides the chainplate attachments. Save your capital for these inevitable surprises.

Sounds like a PROPER repair of the chainplates is your first order of business. The loads on your shrouds are considerable, and if one of them fails, it could be inconvenient at the least, and expensive and dangerous at most. Heck, you can pretty much count on expensive.

Some folks maintain their boat with a phone and a checkbook, while others, like me, prefer to do their own maintenance for the savings, the satisfaction, and the assurance that the job's been done and done right.

A hank on jib on a 30 footer is reasonably easy to manage, and as others have already mentioned, it allows you to swap out headsails to suit conditions.

Good luck with your new boat. There is no better resource than sailnet. This site has an incredible accumulated database, so make good use of the search function.
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