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Sliding gooseneck, does it serve any purpose at all?

My 1974 vintage boat has the de-rigour sliding gooseneck of the period. Frankly it annoys me in many ways, makes it more difficult to raise the sail, shape the sail, reef the sail, drop the sail and everything in-between.
Does it actually have a single redeeming feature that I need to consider before going ahead and nailing the damn thing to the mast properly?
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Re: Sliding gooseneck, does it serve any purpose at all?

Smaller boats in particular had sliding goosenecks in the past. Allows you to raise the sail and cleat it by hand and then lower the boom with a small purchase to tighten the luff, without needing a winch. With the roller reefing booms of the past it didn't have to be fixed. At least that is my guess.

It also complicates vang attachment.

I would want it fixed for single or 2 line reefing, often from the cockpit. Winches are more common on smaller boats now as well.
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Re: Sliding gooseneck, does it serve any purpose at all?

Easy to 'fix' it, and no reason not to, really, esp if you have a halyard winch available. A couple of sail stops above and below, or drill and pin it to the mast. Do you have a cunningham set up for the main? With a sliding gooseneck they may not have added that to the sail.. something you may want to consider if you do pin the gooseneck and you're not set up for the sly pig already...
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Re: Sliding gooseneck, does it serve any purpose at all?

The main has flattening reef cringles so I would just use the forward one for the cunningham. My boom downhaul would pretty easily become my cunningham, although I think I want a bit more purchase on it. I think I'll try and get a sail stopper and fix it that way.
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Re: Sliding gooseneck, does it serve any purpose at all?

The forward cringle would have been the cunningham in any event, a 'flattening' reef usually just involves the clew (though by the time you need it the cunningham's probably already on pretty good)
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Re: Sliding gooseneck, does it serve any purpose at all?

glue it so that you can go back to the original and see how you like it.
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Re: Sliding gooseneck, does it serve any purpose at all?

Part of the problem of course is that it doesn't slide, more a series of grinding jumps and then the inevitable seizing at the worst possible moment, and once it's under load of course it just gets worse. I could spend time trying to clean and lubricate it but I don't think the results would be worth the effort in any case.
I'll add it to the list of 1000 other little jobs that need doing (such as trying to free one end of the spinnaker pole up).
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Re: Sliding gooseneck, does it serve any purpose at all?

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My 1974 vintage boat has the de-rigour sliding gooseneck of the period. Frankly it annoys me in many ways, makes it more difficult to raise the sail, shape the sail, reef the sail, drop the sail and everything in-between.
Does it actually have a single redeeming feature that I need to consider before going ahead and nailing the damn thing to the mast properly?
The "floating" goose neck was an adaptation designed to address the problem of luff stretch when a sail was at full hoist--or on racing boats, when the main was hoisted to the "black band" set at the top of ones spar by class rules. With a fixed goose neck fitting (and before the introduction of the "Cunningham", named after the sailor that came up with the innovation) one had no way to harden a luff as the sail stretched under load. By affixing the goose neck to a track, and adding a 3 or 4 part downhaul, one could harden the luff by stretching it downward without violating class rules or, even if one's sail was at full hoist such that the halyard couldn't be tightened any further. The downhaul also prevented the boom rotating about the point a vang or kicking strap was affixed to the boom causing the goose neck to slide upward at the mast when the main sheet was hardened. Properly maintained and with a good 3-part or 4-tackle for the downhaul, the arrangement works quite well and does not result in the distortion of the lower portion of the sail that a Cunningham causes. Absent doing the maintenance and applying a good dry lubricant such as SailKote to the track and connecting an appropriate downhaul, I wouldn't fix what "ain't" broken.
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Re: Sliding gooseneck, does it serve any purpose at all?

I agree with HyLyte. This isn't really a "problem".

Pin the gooseneck as previously described, or simply add the downhaul, cleat it off, and leave it cleated.

When you raise the main, simply winch against the cleated downhaul as you would if the gooseneck were fixed.

For me, the floating boom/downhaul vs. fixed boom and cunningham is "six in one hand, half-dozen in the other hand."
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Re: Sliding gooseneck, does it serve any purpose at all?

I have a downhaul on it already, the problem is that when I release the halyard to reef, the gooseneck slides down then gets stuck so I have to go to the mast to sort it.
I'll try and disassemble it all to try and get it a bit smoother, if it's too far gone then I'll just pin it.
Also, I have a rigid vang so a fixed gooseneck is advised I think?
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