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Re: mast bend problem

I think some stays must be reversed as CaptFlood said or something. But a photo would be helpful. sounds a bit strange that it is not something obvious, as there is not much to the rigging on these.
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Re: mast bend problem

thanks for the insights.
upon inspection today i've noticed several things that may or may not be of relevance.
the headstay tack has two holes.
i've connected the stay to the forward hole.
the upper shroud on port spreader is running through aft while to starboard is forward.
the spreaders are square athwartship not raked aft as previously mentioned.
the boat is new to us and i've never rigged it before although i have rigged many trailer sailer before.
it is on the trailer and is level fore and aft as well as athwartship.
the former owner didn't use the boat much and can't be contacted.
the boat is equipped with a split backstay.
i'm thinking of re stepping the mast and trying to slip it a bit further forward.
i will try to post some photos but i'm not very good at that sort of thing.
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thanks for the insights.

the upper shroud on port spreader is running through aft while to starboard is forward.

I am not sure what you mean by this.
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i will try to post some photos but i'm not very good at that sort of thing.
Get a free Photobucket account and link to the pics - it works well and is easy to do.
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Re: mast bend problem

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the upper shroud on port spreader is running through aft while to starboard is forward.


I am not sure what you mean by this.
at the outboard end of the spreader the upper shroud passes through the end of the spreader.
one side is different than the other.
i'm going to re step the mast and recheck everything.
just find it odd that the mast is bowed wrong.
i've never had a roller furled headsail before and i wonder if i've done something wrong when stepping the mast.
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Re: mast bend problem

What brand/type of furler?
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Re: mast bend problem

It is a good idea to un-step the mast. As said earlier, an inverted mast is dangerous to use.

When doing so, check
- so the two sides are identical (or mirrored). Probably not very ctitical, but good to have.
- the lengths of the lowers (aft and forward).

When stepping the mast, at the initial stage do not apply high tension to the aft lowers. If there is any bend in the mast, the bend in itself should point forward, mast top aft (opposite to what you have today). A masthead mast should usually not have much bend, if any at all.

It is quite important to follow a scheme when stepping the mast, and applying tension to all stays. The Selden instruction, mentioned above, probably has such a scheme (read ...). Apply tension in steps, check mast for each round.

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Re: mast bend problem

I think you gave us a clue when you said forestay had 2 holes at deck. The condition you describe with the mast bending forward at the shrouds and is still loose is caused by a forestay that is too short. Put the fitting in the aft hole and see if that works. Also, was there a toggle at the deck fitting that is missing?
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