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ericb760 03-17-2014 09:50 PM

What size winches?
 
I have budgeted new halyards this year and am set to put in my order. I'm thinking about buying enough length to extend them to the cockpit. I have the hardware (blocks, clutches, etc.) although they are not installed. I'm wondering what size winches are optimal for placement on the coach roof. Boat is 24'. Any suggestions?

svzephyr44 03-17-2014 10:23 PM

Re: What size winches?
 
Wallis Simpson, Duchess of Windsor once said "you can never be too rich or too thin." You can never have winches that are too big. The bigger the winch the easier to grind. In general production boat winches are about two sizes too small. So I would look at other boats that have about the same sail area and then upsize the winches.

deltaten 03-17-2014 10:27 PM

Re: What size winches?
 
Eric;
If it's any help; my 27 footer has Lewmar 7's for jib winches and a Barlow #6 for the halyards .
I donn't seem to need much more and hardy use theJibbers. anyway ;) EEither would be a nice size fornthe rooftop; tho the Barlow's a tad smaller. Look up listings at mfgrs for dimensions. IIRC, the Ls are 4.5"d X 4.75"h But I could be wrong/close.

HTH,
Paul

denverd0n 03-18-2014 09:08 AM

Re: What size winches?
 
Do you have a winch on the mast for the halyards now? Is it big enough? Running the lines to the cockpit will introduce additional friction, which means that if the current winch is just big enough, you'll want one a size or so larger. If you feel the current winch is too small, you'll want to go up a few sizes. If you raise the halyard now without a winch, then a quite small one should be enough.

ericb760 03-18-2014 11:16 AM

Re: What size winches?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denverd0n (Post 1640722)
Do you have a winch on the mast for the halyards now? Is it big enough? Running the lines to the cockpit will introduce additional friction, which means that if the current winch is just big enough, you'll want one a size or so larger. If you feel the current winch is too small, you'll want to go up a few sizes. If you raise the halyard now without a winch, then a quite small one should be enough.

Thank you. I do have a winch on the mast which I use to hoist the last few feet of the mainsail. It does the job just fine. I honestly don't know the exact size of it, but I'm geussing it's a 6?

bobmcgov 03-18-2014 01:18 PM

Re: What size winches?
 
Single speed #7s or #8s should do just fine if your leads are fair; if they aren't, bigger winches won't make life much better, as chafe & hardware strain will still be there. For even quite large boats, many sailors use #16s on the coachroof. One key is swing room, tho: 8" vs. 10" handle. If there's only room to turn an 8" handle, you may want a larger or geared (2 speed) winch.

We're moving the Enkes #20s (2 speed) from their place on the coamings, aft, up to the coachroof. They are undersized for sheet or afterguy work w/ a 750sqft spinnaker, or for kedging or use w/ drogues. The current Lewmar 40 primaries will move back there. The #20s are oversized for the coachroof, but we have them, and the 2 speeds and gear ratios will be nice with an 8" handle. One other thought is drum height: your lines should lead up onto the winch drum at 12 degrees or so. Small winches have short bases & may need to sit on risers to obtain that angle.

MarkSF 03-18-2014 01:21 PM

Re: What size winches?
 
I just changed my cockpit-mounted main halyard winch to a self-tailer. That might be something to think about - it makes life easier if you're single handed, and makes raising the sail less effort - why? because you have two hands free for grinding, not one.

The one I used is a Lewmar 16 CST. Note that when sizing self-tailing winches, an additional consideration is the line size. The 16 CST takes up to 1/2" line.

zz4gta 03-18-2014 03:12 PM

Re: What size winches?
 
lewmar 16s for primaries and 7s for coach roof secondary's.

miatapaul 03-18-2014 03:19 PM

Re: What size winches?
 
I would say get the closest size you can find on Craigslist. If you go much bigger be careful if you let someone else put it up, as if they crank hard they could damage something by mistake.

azguy 03-18-2014 03:50 PM

Re: What size winches?
 
I have a Catalina 22..

I have 6's for the Halyards and 7's for the jib sheets, I bet the would work on your boat just fine or you could go one size up on each.

Winches are big money, I'm always shocked at even the used prices on eBay


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