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Kerosene stinks if it is not properly vaporized. For instance, if you put it in an oil lamp (with a wick), that will happen. Or if your stove/oven is not properly maintained or operated.

If properly vaporized, good quality kerosene has no smell.

Fumes: yet, if you spill it, it will smell. But it will not explode and it will burn only with difficulty (you can throw a match in a puddle of kerosene and it will not burn). It will also smell if not properly vaporized (typically not enough pre-heating).

Kero heaters can kill you if you operate them without enough fresh air (carbon monoxide poisoning). This applies to ANY open flame heater (kero, gas, wood, coal, ...).

So, in summary, the worst consequence of poor maintenance or poor operation of a kerosene stove is that it smells. For LPG, it is instant death of the operator and anyone else on board.

Which one do you choose?
solid point, there. i am used to wick type space heaters....so, smell came to mind.
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I would not consider a gas explosion a minor problem.

The boat in the slip next to me (on the Chesapeake Bay) some time ago discovered a mouse on the boat. It happens.

check that out. you are pretty close by.
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A used origo stove from Sweden, because a new 2 burner is $250-350. Denatured alcohol stove fuel-$10 to $20 a gallon at hardware stores, quart at walmart. Hard not to spill when filling canisters. You need to see pics of canister.
really? it goes for $10 to $20 a gallon? how long does a gallon last?
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Re: safe cooking

one gallon goes 12 hours give or take.
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Re: safe cooking

That powerboat did not catch fire because of the propane stove. I guarantee you that.

It caught fire because of the inexperienced operator, who failed to properly inspect and maintain their equipment, which just happened to include a stove.

If the same guy lit up a cigarette at a gas station and set it on fire, would you blame the gasoline? Ahuh, I thought so.

IIRC BoatUS has a web article someplace that reported the greatest number of "stove" fires came from those nice safe alcohol stoves, that use a fuel which is pretty famous for leaking and burning with an invisible flame, which then spreads like any other wildfire.

Go to Costco, buy the big boxes of Snickers Bars. No need for cooking or flames onboard any boat at any time, any way.
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Gee, do you have a stove in your car, I don't! Never have! No, the point there was that DRIVING is more dangerous than having a propane stove on a boat; do you understand that point now?
For crying out loud, talk about missing the point, much!
you don't have a stove in your car? how on earth do you fix lunch when on road trips?
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Re: safe cooking

that what the engine is for to heat up a burrito
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Re: safe cooking

"Kerosene stinks if it is not properly vaporized. "

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Everyone has a different reason for why their own kerosene doesn't stink. But the bottom line is that some of us can smell the kerostink no matter what quality kerosense (paraffin oil) you are using. No matter how you trim your wicks. No matter how you tune your engines. (Diesel.)
The stuff always burns with an odor, some people simply are unable to detect it.

There are in fact genetic components that explain why some people simply cannot smell, or test, various compounds. Kerostink hasn't been researched, but I'd bet it is just another one of them.

Last time I won a nice bet, everyone said "Oh, those two beers taste exactly a like." Sure, just like Coke and Pepsi.
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really? it goes for $10 to $20 a gallon? how long does a gallon last?
If you buy a gallon can, denatured alcohol is generally about $13 or $14 per gallon. However, a five-gallon can (a bit harder to find, but usually available at paint supply and some non-big-box hardware stores) runs $25 to $35, or $5 to $7 per gallon.

BTW, even at the high end of the $/gal range, compared to all the other costs involved when owning a boat, stove fuel is pretty trivial; less than the price of a mediocre bottle of wine per month.
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one gallon goes 12 hours give or take.
The Origo manual states 6 to 7 hrs per full canister. It takes one quart to fill each canister. My experience is in line with what the manual states. If you don't use your stove much you will find that some alcohol evaporates in time.
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