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A cheap one burner propane stove is less than the cost of a gallon of alcohol and I cooked on a cylinder of propane for two weeks living aboard full time a cheap alternative in the interem

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"Just want to be able to make a cup of coffee while at an anchorage. A new one is not is the budget at this time. Just spent 2000 .....A new stove isn't happening this year. I think I'll just pull it apart, clean it with some brake or carb cleaner, fill it up and see what happens. Hopefully I wont need my fire extinguisher.[/QUOTE]

Ive been in study and training on a Homestrand 205 bought various parts from Ess kay Yards and now have one burner working perfectly and the other needing to be completely stripped and reassembled . By the time most of us get these gizmos they are mostly in need of a serious cleaning. To do so the needle valves should be removed as carb cleaner may melt the graphite bushings. Anyway they do seem great when properly maintained but hindsight a used origo might been cheaper!. Always have a water spray bottle near to hand!

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I was in a similar situation when I bought my current boat. I found a used Origo 2-burner stove on eBay for $200 or so. It made the biggest difference for the buck I've managed to accomplish in the seven years I've had the boat. I don't know anyone who has switched to a non-pressurized alcohol stove and regretted it. I suppose there are some folks in that category, but they must be pretty few and far between.
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Just want to be able to make a cup of coffee while at an anchorage.
An inexpensive butane stove might be the best option until you can afford an Origo.
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An inexpensive butane stove might be the best option until you can afford an Origo.
I have a copy of the Kenyon that I got on Amazon:

Amazon.com : GAS ONE Stainless Steel Portable Gas Stove UL and CSA List : Portable Butane Gas Stove : Sports & Outdoors Amazon.com : GAS ONE Stainless Steel Portable Gas Stove UL and CSA List : Portable Butane Gas Stove : Sports & Outdoors



The thing is great. I have not used it on a boat, but used it in my apartment when the stove quite and the landlord would not fix it. Worked quite well, very hot burner. Will have to figure out how to store the fuel cans but I think it would be safer than a pressurized alcohol stove. They are also great at home for doing fun deserts at the table and fondue. I think the price has about doubled since I bought it, but still would be worth it for a good cup of coffee in an anchorage. I don't think it would be a permanent fix but will get you warm food for the season till you can get a proper stove installed.
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The misinformation on pressure alcohol stoves is legion. Get the operating instructions online and FOLLOW THEM. What people refer to as flare ups are simply the predictable behavior of preheating. Visit spiritburner.com for lots of info from people who know stoves. That said, I converted a pressure alcohol stove to pressure kerosene... Easy burner part replacement. Kero does give a hotter flame for faster coffee.
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Re: Kenyon Alcohol Stove Maintenance

I consider pressurized alcohol stoves to be THE most dangerous things I have ever seen on a boat. Alcohol can burn with an invisible flame meaning that a person can go through the priming process and think the priming flame is out attempt to pour more fuel on to prime and easily set the entire alcohol container on fire. I'd sooner sail without life jackets than with a pressurized alcohol stove.
When I was considering what to do with the one on my boat, eventually I took the pressurized innards out and looked at the burner wells............hmmmmmmmmmmm. They fit a can of sterno nicely. Increase the height of the pan supports by using long studs screwed up from below and it works fairly well.
If you really want to cook more'n a pot of coffee or hot water, do it on a propane stove mounted on the stern rail like an Origo.
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I consider pressurized alcohol stoves to be THE most dangerous things I have ever seen on a boat. Alcohol can burn with an invisible flame meaning that a person can go through the priming process and think the priming flame is out attempt to pour more fuel on to prime and easily set the entire alcohol container on fire. I'd sooner sail without life jackets than with a pressurized alcohol stove.

When I was considering what to do with the one on my boat, eventually I took the pressurized innards out and looked at the burner wells............hmmmmmmmmmmm. They fit a can of sterno nicely. Increase the height of the pan supports by using long studs screwed up from below and it works fairly well.

If you really want to cook more'n a pot of coffee or hot water, do it on a propane stove mounted on the stern rail like an Origo.

A little hyperbolic, don't you think Frog? There a lots of things to be scared about on a typical boat. Used improperly a winch will take your fingers off. A boom can easily kill someone, and the idea of using a highly volatile fuel that is invisible and heavier than air is just plain crazy ;-).

Yes, pressure alcohol stoves can be dangerous if used improperly. Same goes for many boat systems. I used my Kenyon for six years. Zero problems. Keep the burners clean (just like propane or kero), use clean fuel, and operate it properly. They can work fine. They're not as efficient as propane or kero. The fuel is liquid, so is volumous, making it harder to carry months at a time. And the fuel is apparently getting harder to find. But to call it "the most dangerous thing on a boat" is just silly.


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The most dangerous thing on a boat is the loose nut on the tiller
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Frogwatch:
I was not aware that Origo even made a propane stove. Their non-pressurized alcohol stoves are well regarded though. And Sterno is just alcohol in a gelled form with the same drawbacks as liguid (though it may be treated to burn with a more visible flame than liquid alcohol).
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