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Re: Shroud clips, oversized or undersized?

Ok thanks for the insight, I do not expect hard bends on my stays as I am pretty cautious when raising and lowering.

I made this thread because two of my wires on the dinghy were about half way through slipping out of the sleeve so I was worried if they were enough.

Also I already ordered the wire :X

Is there a way of pressing those things without the specific pressing tool?

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Re: Shroud clips, oversized or undersized?

There is a hard bend of the wire around the thimble.

Using 2 Nicropress sleeves is all the insurance needed.

The specific too is needed. You can buy it from Duckworks. Here is the link. The sleeves to use are zinc coated copper. They have the thimbles as well.
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Re: Shroud clips, oversized or undersized?

These be what I bought.

Amazon.com: Loos Stainless Steel 302/304 Wire Rope, 1x19 Strand, 5/32 Amazon.com: Loos Stainless Steel 302/304 Wire Rope, 1x19 Strand, 5/32" Bare OD, 50' Length, 3300 lbs Breaking Strength: Industrial & Scientific



Amazon.com: Loos Cableware AN100-C5 Stainless Steel Thimble for 5/32 Amazon.com: Loos Cableware AN100-C5 Stainless Steel Thimble for 5/32" Diameter Wire Rope (10 Piece): Industrial & Scientific



Loos Cableware SL2-5P 10 Piece Zinc Plated Copper Crimping Sleeve Set for 5/32 Loos Cableware SL2-5P 10 Piece Zinc Plated Copper Crimping Sleeve Set for 5/32" Diameter Wire Rope (Pack of 10): Wire Rope Crimping Loop Sleeves: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific



The reason I am replacing the stays is because the current wire is 1x7 and has kinks in it where the previous owner pinched it, also I am upgrading from 1/8" because I was worried the 1x7 1/8" might break after enough time if I use a trapeze.



Also they are 5/32", do you think the smaller 1/8" tool would work or do I have to get the bigger one.

If not I would end up buying one of these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Swage-Tool-/...item43c89e21c6

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Re: Shroud clips, oversized or undersized?

The wire, thimble, and sleeves are good. They don't say much about the swaging tool but if it is of reasonable quality it should work.
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Re: Shroud clips, oversized or undersized?

The 1/8" One you posted, Or the one I posted?
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The 1/8" One you posted, Or the one I posted?
The link you posted. The swage tool in the link I posted only does up to 1/8 wire - which would be fine for your boat I would think.
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Re: Shroud clips, oversized or undersized?

Yea I was going to buy 1/8 to replace the 1/8 on there but some listed the working load as 400 lb or so, I was worried that with my weight on the mast too from a trapeze, that a line might become over stressed. Figured they put the right line on there for the sails, but not the sails plus me.
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Re: Shroud clips, oversized or undersized?

1 x 19 type 304 stainless wire has a breaking strength of about 1780 lbs.
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Re: Shroud clips, oversized or undersized?

What is the point of working load limit rating then?

Load Limit Definitions
The Working Load Limit is the maximum load which should ever be applied to the product, even when the product is new and when the load is uniformly applied - straight line pull only. Avoid side loading. All catalog ratings are based upon usual environmental conditions and consideration must be given to unusual conditions such as extreme high or low temperatures, chemical solutions or vapors, prolonged immersion in salt water, etc. Never exceed the Working Load Limit.

That is what I am going off of and 1/8" was 400 lbs.

I figured the force of the wind on the sails and my 200 lbs hanging off the side would be greater than 400 lbs of force.

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